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ggw
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:33 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I think America has always had a do it yourself ethos. That is part and parcel what the Republican Party is built on.

Originally posted by the scientist:
Originally posted by ggw:
My point is that Young was influential musically, whereas I would argue that the Sex Pistols were more influential culturally.
Well If you say the attitude of punk, the do it yourself ethos, was a cultural change then maybe.

Who did Neil Young have such a massive inluence on? I know I could look it up on allmusic, but that thing lies.
I bet John Lydon votes Republican.
thirsty moore
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:40 PM UTC #
I saw Patti Smith cover "Keep On Rockin' In the Free World" a few years back. I hear she's punk.

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
For me, let's put it this way. There was a time maybe ten years ago where I went to about six shows in a row, and every band I saw did a Neil Young cover. I have never seen anybody do a Sex Pistols cover.
Rhett Miller
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:42 PM UTC #
Us your high school education and figure it out for us.


Rockin' In The Free World"

There are colours on the street
Red, white and blue
People shufflin' their feet
People sleepin' in their shoes
But there's a warnin' sign on the road ahead
There's a lot of people sayin' we'd be better off dead
Don't feel like Satan but I am to them
So I try to forget it anyway I can

Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world

I see a girl in the night
With a baby in her hand
Under an old street light
Near a garbage can
Now she puts the kid away and she's gone to get a hit
She hates her life and what she's done to it
That's one more kid that will never go to school
Never get to fall in love never get to be cool

Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world

We got a thousand points of light
For the homeless man
We got a kinder gentler machine gun hand

We got department stores and toilet paper
Got styrofoam boxes for the ozone layer
Got a man of the people says keep hope alive
Got fuel to burn got roads to drive

Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world


Originally posted by mankie:
"Keep on rocking in the free world"

What the hell was the man thinking?

(I'm a fan of Neil Young for the record)
kosmo
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:44 PM UTC #
Originally posted by mankie:
"Keep on rocking in the free world"

What the hell was the man thinking?

(I'm a fan of Neil Young for the record)
well prior to 9/11 it was sarcastic chorus as part of a song pointing out the various problems in the "free world". the problem now is the chorus has made it an fist pumping anthem. sad really…

Rockin' In The Free World

There are colours on the street
Red, white and blue
People shufflin' their feet
People sleepin' in their shoes
But there's a warnin' sign on the road ahead
There's a lot of people sayin' we'd be better off dead
Don't feel like Satan but I am to them
So I try to forget it anyway I can

Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world

I see a girl in the night
With a baby in her hand
Under an old street light
Near a garbage can
Now she puts the kid away and she's gone to get a hit
She hates her life and what she's done to it
That's one more kid that will never go to school
Never get to fall in love never get to be cool

Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world

We got a thousand points of light
For the homeless man
We got a kinder gentler machine gun hand

We got department stores and toilet paper
Got styrofoam boxes for the ozone layer
Got a man of the people says keep hope alive
Got fuel to burn got roads to drive

Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Rhett Miller
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:46 PM UTC #
ala Born in the USA


"Keep on rocking in the free world"

What the hell was the man thinking?

(I'm a fan of Neil Young for the record) well prior to 9/11 it was sarcastic chorus as part of a song pointing out the various problems in the "free world". the problem now is the chorus has made it an fist pumping anthem. sad really…
thirsty moore
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:46 PM UTC #
Since when did Neil Young go poncey British?

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
There are colours on the street
thirsty moore
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:47 PM UTC #
Nevermind, he's Canadian.

Originally posted by thirsty moore:
Since when did Neil Young go poncey British?
ggw
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:48 PM UTC #
And just to tie everything together, here's Bowie's take on Young:

"There's youthful redemption in everything he does, a joyfulness about being an independent thinker in America."
mankie
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:52 PM UTC #
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
[QB] Nevermind, he's Canadian.



He's talented…he obviously wasn't yanklish!

I know all about the song by the way…just thought he was above that kind of crap that's all.
ggw
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:54 PM UTC #
This is before the Thermidor of late-70's punk, when one rock icon after another fell before its guillotine of cultural relevancy, and Young was the one 60's artist not only spared by the revolution but also embraced as a kindred spirit.

This is back before the nitwitted lawsuit filed against him in the 80's by the head of his record label, David Geffen, for not making true ''Neil Young'' records, before the 90's, when Kurt Cobain quoted him in his suicide note, before he became the only artist in the year 2000 that one could possibly imagine sharing a concert bill with, say, Merle Haggard on the one hand and Nine Inch Nails on the other.


http://www.laurencecook.com/erickson/articles/neilyoung.html
thirsty moore
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:54 PM UTC #
While the lyrics might tell a story of urban blight, many people don't realize that Neil Young just wanted to get laid.
kosmo
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:55 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
ala Born in the USA


"Keep on rocking in the free world"

What the hell was the man thinking?

(I'm a fan of Neil Young for the record)
well prior to 9/11 it was sarcastic chorus as part of a song pointing out the various problems in the "free world". the problem now is the chorus has made it an fist pumping anthem. sad really…

another song which the boss himself has let lose it's meaning… even after some republican president candidate tried unsuccessfully to coop as their theme.

i saw csn&y post 9/11 and was disappointed that neil was turning "rockin" into anthem… however at the greendale show he was again performing it with the anger of when it first came out. pearl jam unfortunately has let it become anthem… unless they are grinning inside when they play it
thirsty moore
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:55 PM UTC #
To further complicate things… Social D. and Sonic Youth toured with Young in the early 90's.
kosmo
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:58 PM UTC #
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
To further complicate things… Social D. and Sonic Youth toured with Young in the early 90's.
a great tour by the way… complete with the rust never sleeps giant amps and drums! to bad that his audience didn't appreciate either of the support acts.
ggw
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 04:59 PM UTC #
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
To further complicate things… Social D. and Sonic Youth toured with Young in the early 90's.
In my mind, that was the greatest triple-bill of all-time.
markie
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 05:01 PM UTC #
alright, enough already, Neil young is great.

Anyone notice how Bowie disappeared during the salad days of punk?
thirsty moore
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 05:05 PM UTC #
That's because he was bonking Lou Reed and Iggy Pop, who also dissapeared. They fell into a hole in Berlin.
Rhett Miller
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 05:09 PM UTC #
exactly on all accounts.

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
To further complicate things… Social D. and Sonic Youth toured with Young in the early 90's.
a great tour by the way… complete with the rust never sleeps giant amps and drums! to bad that his audience didn't appreciate either of the support acts.
mankie
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Re: Sex Pistols July 18, 2003 at 05:11 PM UTC #
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
That's because he was bonking Lou Reed and Iggy Pop, who also dissapeared. They fell into a hole in Berlin.
One of the funniest quotes I've read, "myself and Iggy moved to Berlin to kick our out of control Heroin habit, only to find out Berlin was the Heroin capital of the world"…Bowie!
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