Sorry about that - go Tribe!
MLB Playoffs 2007
Oh, and from Boz:
'But, except for the $143 million, buy-a-title Red Sox – who now look so much like the Empire they claim to hate that they should consider switching to pinstripes – this October is going to be a tale about how less can be more. '
Amen, brother.
'But, except for the $143 million, buy-a-title Red Sox – who now look so much like the Empire they claim to hate that they should consider switching to pinstripes – this October is going to be a tale about how less can be more. '
Amen, brother.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Wake the knuckler struggled the last month.
Originally posted by vansmack:
I'm pretty sure most Sox fans are uncomfortable with either choice - Dice K (15-12, 4.40 ERA) or the banged up Schilling (9-8, 3.87 ERA). Boston fans can't feel comfortable with this, especially if they split at Fenway.
Originally posted by vansmack:Damn. I just wrote about the wrong series. This Tribe team is doing everything I hoped the Angels would do - Boston has been on it's heels since Gagne came in late in game 2.
How are you Sox fans feeling about your backend? Do you even want to see Gagne touch a baseball?
no yankees. if no boston, fox will be upset. no one will watch.
Originally posted by Shemp:i was just thinking about how this feels like a yankees/sox series with the sox in the yankees' role
Oh, and from Boz:
'But, except for the $143 million, buy-a-title Red Sox – who now look so much like the Empire they claim to hate that they should consider switching to pinstripes – this October is going to be a tale about how less can be more. '
Amen, brother.
Originally posted by anarchist:I will.
no one will watch.
Originally posted by vansmack:I beg to differ. i know you pride yourself on your sports knowledge, but its really been the lack of hitting on Bostons sides, or the backend of Clevelands rotation that did them in.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Wake the knuckler struggled the last month.
Originally posted by vansmack:
I'm pretty sure most Sox fans are uncomfortable with either choice - Dice K (15-12, 4.40 ERA) or the banged up Schilling (9-8, 3.87 ERA). Boston fans can't feel comfortable with this, especially if they split at Fenway.
Originally posted by vansmack:Damn. I just wrote about the wrong series. This Tribe team is doing everything I hoped the Angels would do - Boston has been on it's heels since Gagne came in late in game 2.
How are you Sox fans feeling about your backend? Do you even want to see Gagne touch a baseball?
losing 4-2 is not "really" Dice-K's fault, no one expected him to hold Cleveland scoreless! and our bullpen held very steady last night.
i think you're only seeing whats right about your original posts. Wake's our 4th starter, it doesnt take a genius to figure out we dont want him picthing a crucial game! (tell Francona that though)
duh!
Originally posted by vansmack:not it!
Originally posted by anarchist:I will.
no one will watch.
Originally posted by le sonick:Besides Becket, no starter has made it through the 5th.
I beg to differ…but its really been the lack of hitting on Bostons sides
Schilling 4.2 Innings, 9 hits, 5 ER
Dice-K 4.2 Innings, 4 ER on 6 hits and 2 walks
Wake 4.2 Innings, 5 ER on 5 hits and 2 walks
Sorry man, but that's bad starting pitching with an ERA of well over 7 no matter how you look at it. It would take a ridiculous amount of offense to overcome that. That's why, in the playoffs, it's all about pitching.
Originally posted by vansmack:first
Originally posted by le sonick:Besides Becket, no starter has made it through the 5th.
I beg to differ…but its really been the lack of hitting on Bostons sides
Schilling 4.2 Innings, 9 hits, 5 ER
Dice-K 4.2 Innings, 4 ER on 6 hits and 2 walks
Wake 4.2 Innings, 5 ER on 5 hits and 2 walks
Sorry man, but that's bad starting pitching with an ERA of well over 7 no matter how you look at it. It would take a ridiculous amount of offense to overcome that.
we DID overcome it in Game 2
game 3 we scored 2 runs, I know you dont follow the Sox every day, but we arent built to win that many 2-1 ballgames.
and tonight was starter number 4.
i still think 3 starters deep we win series if we can hit decently.
Sabathia and Carmona both looked like Poo as well. hence my "backend of Cleveland's rotation" bit.
Westbrook and Byrd combined for what, 13 innings and 4 runs (2 of which came with a 4-0 lead and 2 others with a 7-0 lead)? it'd take some damn good pitching to overcome that too..
Originally posted by le sonick:If the Sox can get this to go 7, you'll get your chance to prove this theory. But I bet you won't - not with Schilling and Dice K going again. And they're already saying Becket's back is bad - sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. That's the sign of beaten team.
i still think 3 starters deep we win series if we can hit decently.
Originally posted by le sonick:I follow a lot of baseball, but I don't see your point here. The Tribe isn't winning 2-1 games against the Sox - they've scored 13,4 and 7 in their 3 wins, and the Sox have lost all three. Shocker.
game 3 we scored 2 runs, I know you dont follow the Sox every day, but we arent built to win that many 2-1 ballgames.
Originally posted by vansmack:i suppose you'll argue your point longer than mine, but here it is.
Originally posted by le sonick:I follow a lot of baseball, but I don't see your point here. The Tribe isn't winning 2-1 games against the Sox - they've scored 13,4 and 7 in their 3 wins, and the Sox have lost all three. Shocker.
game 3 we scored 2 runs, I know you dont follow the Sox every day, but we arent built to win that many 2-1 ballgames.
the red sox scored 2 runs in Game 3. for them to win, they would need to hold the Indians to only 1, or even none. check the stats and see how many of 96 games , the sox won scoring 1 or 2 runs. my point being the Sox team was built to score, and they arent, therefore losing games. sure, i would have like schilling to have pitched better, but really, the sox bats have been the disappointment, and Gagne of course, but we all knew that..
now if you dont mind, i have to ride my bike home…a wee bit drunk…for 3 miles…
But aren't the sox not scoring due to cleveland's pitching…thus it coming back to pitching in the post-season?
Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by vansmack:i suppose you'll argue your point longer than mine, but here it is.
Originally posted by le sonick:I follow a lot of baseball, but I don't see your point here. The Tribe isn't winning 2-1 games against the Sox - they've scored 13,4 and 7 in their 3 wins, and the Sox have lost all three. Shocker.
game 3 we scored 2 runs, I know you dont follow the Sox every day, but we arent built to win that many 2-1 ballgames.
the red sox scored 2 runs in Game 3. for them to win, they would need to hold the Indians to only 1, or even none. check the stats and see how many of 96 games , the sox won scoring 1 or 2 runs. my point being the Sox team was built to score, and they arent, therefore losing games. sure, i would have like schilling to have pitched better, but really, the sox bats have been the disappointment, and Gagne of course, but we all knew that..
now if you dont mind, i have to ride my bike home…a wee bit drunk…for 3 miles…
Originally posted by Shemp:only thing worse than putting up big bucks to buy a title (hello, 2004), is putting up big bucks and not winning a title… for seven years straight. top it all off with the mets being the only other local alternative, and we know why NYC baseball fans are so annoyed/annoying.
Oh, and from Boz:
'But, except for the $143 million, buy-a-title Red Sox – who now look so much like the Empire they claim to hate that they should consider switching to pinstripes
Originally posted by Chip Chanko:thank you , thats my point.
But aren't the sox not scoring due to cleveland's pitching…
Originally posted by sweetcell:you're all so bitter. with the Yankees spending so much, any team in their division with a BRAIN has to spend spend spend to compete with them.
Originally posted by Shemp:only thing worse than putting up big bucks to buy a title (hello, 2004), is putting up big bucks and not winning a title… for seven years straight. top it all off with the mets being the only other local alternative, and we know why NYC baseball fans are so annoyed/annoying.
Oh, and from Boz:
'But, except for the $143 million, buy-a-title Red Sox – who now look so much like the Empire they claim to hate that they should consider switching to pinstripes
or is Boston supposed to roll over and die like the other 3 teams in that division each year? what would YOU do if you were in the Yankees division.
and also, what huge name free agents have the Sox "bought" their great team with.
Ramirez, Daisuke and Schilling? Varitek came eons ago, Youk, Pedroia and Papelbon are homeboys. Lowell and Beckett came via trade. Ortiz and Wakefiend were signed as minor leaguers. Crisp, also via trade. and Drew and Lugo were signed as free agents, but we can hardly say they were bought for a championship!!!!
and in 04 are you saying we bought Trot Nixon, Kevin Millar and Bill Mueller to win a title??
you have to be either joking or bitter to say that crap, seriously.
If you're team is built to score in the postseason and Crisp, Lugo, JD Drew and Varitek are involved, you can't be surprised when you have problems.
Cleveland (and Colorado) right now has the combination of talent, chemistry, and guys playing out of their minds (like Byrd who is completely locked in) that wins championships. That's what the 04 Sox had. That was not a bought championship. In fact, I can't think of any bought championship ever in baseball. The closest was maybe DBacks 01 . . . but they won b/c the team had chemistry and guys were playing out of their minds.
When JD Drew is involved, you just feel like he's going to lose. Like being at a cold Blackjack table. Or having ARod in your lineup in the playoffs. He's a human cooler. Beckett should be strong, but the Boston line-up just doesn't look like they have what it takes.
Cleveland (and Colorado) right now has the combination of talent, chemistry, and guys playing out of their minds (like Byrd who is completely locked in) that wins championships. That's what the 04 Sox had. That was not a bought championship. In fact, I can't think of any bought championship ever in baseball. The closest was maybe DBacks 01 . . . but they won b/c the team had chemistry and guys were playing out of their minds.
When JD Drew is involved, you just feel like he's going to lose. Like being at a cold Blackjack table. Or having ARod in your lineup in the playoffs. He's a human cooler. Beckett should be strong, but the Boston line-up just doesn't look like they have what it takes.
Originally posted by Mobius:precisely.
If you're team is built to score in the postseason and Crisp, Lugo, JD Drew and Varitek are involved, you can't be surprised when you have problems.
Cleveland (and Colorado) right now has the combination of talent, chemistry, and guys playing out of their minds (like Byrd who is completely locked in) that wins championships. That's what the 04 Sox had. That was not a bought championship. In fact, I can't think of any bought championship ever in baseball. The closest was maybe DBacks 01 . . . but they won b/c the team had chemistry and guys were playing out of their minds.
When JD Drew is involved, you just feel like he's going to lose. Like being at a cold Blackjack table. Or having ARod in your lineup in the playoffs. He's a human cooler. Beckett should be strong, but the Boston line-up just doesn't look like they have what it takes.
with what really boils down to a short postseason as far as sports go. some good teams just get hot and win it.
here's what i thought last night. If everything were reversed between the Sox and Indians (we won in the 11th and won game 3 and 4, etc etc) i would say we were beating the Indians senseless. so though its a slim possibility we win tomorrow. i cant believe momentum is gonna change THAT much that winning 3 in a row is an option.
but if Game 7 does happen. I want Jon Lester to start!
Ortiz was signed as a minor leaguer? I'm not sure about that, I'm pretty sure one or two years before he became a Red Sock, I told a guy in our fantasy baseball league to draft him with like his 23rd pick because he was the Twins first baseman. Maybe he wasn't an every day player, I think he sat against lefties, but I'm pretty sure he was in the majors.
I really haven't hated the Red Sox since Pedro left, but am I the only person that thought Manny should have been hit with a pitch during his next at bat for that idiot display after he hit his meaningless home run?
I really haven't hated the Red Sox since Pedro left, but am I the only person that thought Manny should have been hit with a pitch during his next at bat for that idiot display after he hit his meaningless home run?