MLB Playoffs 2007

Originally posted by Buck Satan:
Ortiz was signed as a minor leaguer? I'm not sure about that, I'm pretty sure one or two years before he became a Red Sock, I told a guy in our fantasy baseball league to draft him with like his 23rd pick because he was the Twins first baseman. Maybe he wasn't an every day player, I think he sat against lefties, but I'm pretty sure he was in the majors.

yes, i was tired when i typed that. Ortiz was not signed as a minor leaguer. but he WAS released by Minnesota after 2002, and picked up basically as a player without a job, for like $1.2 million a year. (we're now paying him $13.5!!) hardly a "big free agent" signing.

Originally posted by Buck Satan:

but am I the only person that thought Manny should have been hit with a pitch during his next at bat for that idiot display after he hit his meaningless home run?

its not just you, its every other Yankees fan and lots of old guys. dont football players jump around and celebrate like fools after every tackle, sack, block, hit they do, no matter how meaningless? people dont seem to mind that generally.

Originally posted by le sonick:

yes, i was tired when i typed that. Ortiz was not signed as a minor leaguer. but he WAS released by Minnesota after 2002, and picked up basically as a player without a job, for like $1.2 million a year. (we're now paying him $13.5!!) hardly a "big free agent" signing.

Agreed, he was definetely a steal and they saw something all other teams, including the Twins, didn't see.

its not just you, its every other Yankees fan and lots of old guys. dont football players jump around and celebrate like fools after every tackle, sack, block, hit they do, no matter how meaningless? people dont seem to mind that generally. [/QB]

I don't think its a Yankee thing because the Yankees had nothing to do with this. I had 3 Red Sox players on my team this year so Its not like I hate them anymore. What he did was not entertaining, like what football players pretty much do and now get fined for. Even the Red Sox fans that I work with said it was a bit much. I can understand if it were a walk off homer or an important hit, but common, it meant nothing at the time and nothing in the end.

wait, so just the hands in the air thing? thats all youre talking about right?

Precisely one of the reasons why this old guy stopped watching football when he was a young guy. Blockhead jocks acting like douchebags.

Originally posted by le sonick:

Originally posted by Buck Satan:

but am I the only person that thought Manny should have been hit with a pitch during his next at bat for that idiot display after he hit his meaningless home run?

its not just you, its every other Yankees fan and lots of old guys. dont football players jump around and celebrate like fools after every tackle, sack, block, hit they do, no matter how meaningless? people dont seem to mind that generally.

Originally posted by le sonick:
wait, so just the hands in the air thing? thats all youre talking about right?

The hands in the air like he just won the world series for five seconds and walking half way to first base.

Originally posted by Buck Satan:
The hands in the air like he just won the world series for five seconds and walking half way to first base.

Or at least as if they had just tied the game up - not just gotten within 4 runs.

hold on:

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I'll agree with you Sonick, that they're not hitting well, but I will disagree that "not hitting well" is the sox biggest problem right now.

You cannot, under any circumstances with a 25 man roster, go to your bullpen 3 games in a row before the 5th inning. Absolutely not. I guarantee you in the regular season, Francona leaves Wake out there to pitch 2 more because during the regular season you don't have to win 4 out of 7. You have to win 90 out of 162 and the spacing is different. These are must win circumstances and your starting pitching has to go deep - and they're not. Even when the bats turned it around in the 6th, it was too late, because your starting pitching has failed you and your bullpen is exhausted.

If Beckett experiences pain or can't go deep tomorrow, you're toast.

Originally posted by vansmack:


If Beckett experiences pain or can't go deep tomorrow, you're toast.

Obviously.

Worth noting that Cleveland's starting pitching has had the exact same struggles.

Also, I didn't mind Manny's reaction. I saw it as a signal that they weren't done and they still had swagger. But the guys that follow Manny in the line-up are losers.

Originally posted by Mobius:
Worth noting that Cleveland's starting pitching has had the exact same struggles.

With the obvious excpetion of Westbrook pitching into the 7th and Byrd into the 6th, and it not being three games in a row….so I wouldn't call it exact.

Originally posted by vansmack:

If Beckett experiences pain or can't go deep tomorrow, you're toast.

We need a lot more than Beckett to avoid being "toast"

Originally posted by le sonick:
We need a lot more than Beckett to avoid being "toast"

My gut says Beckett needs to go 7, and with Beckett, you can win a 2-1 game.

Originally posted by Buck Satan:

Originally posted by le sonick:
wait, so just the hands in the air thing? thats all youre talking about right?

The hands in the air like he just won the world series for five seconds and walking half way to first base.

Yeah - dude you're still down by 4 runs….

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i love Manny. :)

also, not that this may make any difference….he does that every time he hits one, all year long.

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by le sonick:
We need a lot more than Beckett to avoid being "toast"

My gut says Beckett needs to go 7, and with Beckett, you can win a 2-1 game.

true and true.

but i'd like to get the bats going so we dont have to win 2-1 in Game 6 and 7!!!!

11:18: Mark from Philly offers an inspiring defense for Manny's home run preening: "When Manny went deep, my first thought was, 'Quit posing, Manny, we're still down 7-3.' Then it dawned on me that Manny probably had no idea what the score was. In fact, he probably isn't aware that baseball games are determined by which team scores more runs. Manny's only point of differentiation comes when, after hitting a home run, he sees his teammates waiting for him at home plate – it's at that point he knows it's time to go to the strip club."

Originally posted by le sonick:
but if Game 7 does happen. I want Jon Lester to start!

11:25: Lester gets through the eighth without any damage. You know it's a bad sign for your playoff hopes when your second-year long reliever gets 10 outs in a blowout and you're thinking, "Hmmmmm, I wonder if we should start him in Game 7?"

Remember who Lester beat when he pitched his first game this year? ;)

I know, because he was in my fantasy lineup that week.

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by le sonick:
but if Game 7 does happen. I want Jon Lester to start!

11:25: Lester gets through the eighth without any damage. You know it's a bad sign for your playoff hopes when your second-year long reliever gets 10 outs in a blowout and you're thinking, "Hmmmmm, I wonder if we should start him in Game 7?"

LOL-er!!!