MLB Playoffs 2007

Originally posted by Buck Satan:

Originally posted by le sonick:
First of all, the Yankees were the first team to start spending all that cash, and did so to win 4 World Series' ,

Did they have to spend to win those four series? Sure they had some players from outside of the organization, but if I remember correctly, and it was a long time ago, alot of players on those teams came up within their system. [/QB]

yeah, partially true.

they didnt have a $200 million payroll, but the Yanks did have the highest payroll in Baseball during 3 of those 4 years (Baltimore was the highest paid team in 1998)

in fact, here's something interesting:

in 1988 the Dodgers won the Series, in 1989 they had the highest payroll.

in 1989, the A's won the Series, they had the highest payroll in 1991.

in 1993, the Blue Jays owned both the highest payroll AND the Championship.

the Yankees did it in 1996, 1999 and 2000.

even the Orioles, whom after going to the ALCS in 1996 and 1997, owned baseballs highest payroll in 1998.


This has gone on for almost 20 years at least. you want a winning team, you have to pay for it.

I bet you'll find that before salary caps the highest paid football, hockey and basketball teams were more successful. (except the Rangers)

Originally posted by le sonick:

The Angels know that too. they won in 2002.

Actually, Anaheim's payroll the year they won was $61,721,667 - not anywhere near the top teams in baseball (15th to be precise). That's when Disney cashed in on the team, and the new owner, coupled with huge season ticket sales has since invested a ton of money into the payroll. They have yet to return to the World Series.

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by le sonick:

The Angels know that too. they won in 2002.

Actually, Anaheim's payroll the year they won was $61,721,667 - not anywhere near the top teams in baseball (15th to be precise). That's when Disney cashed in on the team, and the new owner, coupled with huge season ticket sales has since invested a ton of money into the payroll. They have yet to return to the World Series.

well thats my point in posting those numbers. Most teams were at the top of the payroll numbers in years following thier championships or near championships.

but even now as the Angels numbers are quite high, they win their division and always field a good team.

If only they could do something about their dumb team name.

Originally posted by Shemp:
If only they could do something about their dumb team name.

Red Sox or Yankees?

Imagine the Red Sox payroll after they sign A-Rod this off-season.

If the Rox
Lose to the Sox
Blame Fox

By the way, if anybody bets the -220, I will punch them in the face.

Originally posted by vansmack:
By the way, if anybody bets the -220, I will punch them in the face.

lol. i didnt bet the -220 cause i only bet $100 maximums, but i did but $50 on Sox -1 1/2.


and i thought to myself, 14 of their last 15 to finish 18 games over .500?

this team was 76-71 after Labor Day?

they looked 76-71 tonight…at best.

the fox music guys were really on tonight … elvis costello's "(angels want to wear my) red shoes" going to a break was a great touch

Originally posted by le sonick:
lol. i didnt bet the -220 cause i only bet $100 maximums, but i did but $50 on Sox -1 1/2.

Well, the ratio would be the same no matter how much you bet, but if anybody thought risking $2.20 to win a $1 was a good idea, I really would have to punch them. I feel the same way about betting them to the series - you're better off betting the Sox -1.5 every game (as you did), losing one game at most, and taking home 3 times as much cash.

Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
the fox music guys were really on tonight … elvis costello's "(angels want to wear my) red shoes" going to a break was a great touch

They played Pixies (Boston) He Comes Your Man after another dominating inning from Beckett (I think the 2nd). That was incredibly strong.

But it still doesn't make up for the fact that I can't stand Tim McCarver and Joe Buck and Fox sports generally. McCarver has a good insight every once in a while but its not worth the inanity in between lucid thoughts. And what does Buck contribute? An occasional play on words? Fox broadcasts of major sporting events is a bane on our society.

yea, we need more announcing geniuses like Tony Kornheiser…

:roll:

Originally posted by le sonick:
yea, we need more announcing geniuses like Tony Kornheiser…

:roll:

Kornheiser is the worst.

At least you can turn the sound off MNF (although Jaws is arguably the best). Fox distracts from the game in every way - e.g. w/ graphics unrelated to the action like putting up a picture of Manny w/ his latest quote right in the middle of an at bat. They make it very difficult to stay into a game.

Originally posted by Mobius:

Originally posted by le sonick:
yea, we need more announcing geniuses like Tony Kornheiser…

:roll:

Kornheiser is the worst.

At least you can turn the sound off MNF (although Jaws is arguably the best). Fox distracts from the game in every way - e.g. w/ graphics unrelated to the action like putting up a picture of Manny w/ his latest quote right in the middle of an at bat. They make it very difficult to stay into a game.

yeah. i do hate Fox. and i HATE their graphics…sometimes they even have sound effects…ugh!

I can't believe Joe Buck already said "Jub Jub" and I missed it! That was the main reason I was gonna watch this World Series…

ESPN Radio (Jonny Miller and Joe Morgan) over the air with the mute on the TV. The only way to watch Fox baseball.

Originally posted by vansmack:
ESPN Radio (Johnny Miller and Joe Morgan) over the air with the mute on the TV. The only way to watch Fox baseball.

I thought he only did golf.

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I love John Miller.

Originally posted by Shemp:
I thought he only did golf.

Sorry, there's no H.

But in SF, he's affectionately known as Jonny Miller, the voice fo the Giants.