NHL Playoffs Thread...

Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:

The pens trade deadline deals

The pens lack of defense & goaltending

Who really deserves the Hart
Beating a 5 and 7 seed doesn't change anything. Ovechkin is still the MVP. The trade was still absurd. The Pens still can't win the cup, and Marc Andre Fleury and the lack of defense will be the reason.

that may be worst thing you've ever written. everyone in here is dumber for having read it.

it is more likely what you hope than what you believe.

because if you believe it - it means you don't know much about hockey & haven't been following along very closely.

it's ok to admit you were very wrong about the trade -
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
right right, then pens have had no chance of proving anything yet in the playoffs, and have no chance of proving anything going forward. lets not even play the games
I didn't say they didn't have a chance to prove anything, simply that they hadn't and won't. Beating the 5, 6, and 7 seed is not a major accomplishment. If they get Montreal in the Eastern finals, and beat them, I'll be impressed. And I still maintain the team has no realistic chance to win the Cup.

The trade is still asinine – trade away the future of your second and third line for a rental in a season in which you had no viable, realistic shot to win the Cup. Dumb no matter who does it, and the overwhelming majority of hockey fans who aren't Pens rooters agree.
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
because if you believe it - it means you don't know much about hockey & haven't been following along very closely.

it's ok to admit you were very wrong about the trade -
I pray nightly for a Wings/Pens final. If the Pens can win a single game it'd be one of the most shocking accomplishments in hockey history. Hell, I'm not sure they could win two against Dallas.
Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
right right, then pens have had no chance of proving anything yet in the playoffs, and have no chance of proving anything going forward. lets not even play the games
The trade is still asinine – trade away the future of your second and third line for a rental in a season in which you had no viable, realistic shot to win the Cup. Dumb no matter who does it, and the overwhelming majority of hockey fans who aren't Pens rooters agree.
Seriously - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!??!

the future of their 2ND & 3RD lines?!?!?!

The Pens are rolling 4 SOLID lines. They can't even get a healthy Gary Roberts on the ice. They don't miss Armstrong or Christensen even a bit. It's like they never existed. They weren't the future. They were bit role players. The only future they gave up was the Esposito. Who is a big unknown.

Someone who may know a bit more than the "porn star":

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/183695
Allan Muir

One of the toughest tricks of this profession is the deadline day trade breakdown story.

It's really a no-win proposition. Everyone wants to talk about who got the better end of a deal, but at the same time, they realize that the winner – if there is one – won't become clear for months, maybe years. Best case scenario: The knee-jerk reactions provide plenty of fodder for fan banter.

Yet, here I am again, strangely compelled to talk about who made the savviest moves as the clock wound down. And really, why not? Last-minute reinforcements have been critical to the late runs, and early playoff success, of several clubs.

Here, then, is my ranking of the most impactful acquisitions (so far) of Deadline Day '08:

1A and B: Adam Foote (photo) and Ruslan Salei: The addition of these hard rock defenders didn't generate much of a splash on deadline day, but their physical presence clearly re-booted the battered Avs blueline. Both are eating up more than 20 minutes a night, and their calm, consistent performance has played a large role in the postseason success of Jose Theodore (Thursday night, notwithstanding). It was primarily the work of Foote and partner Kent Sauer that knocked the starch out of Minnesota's Marian Gaborik, limiting him to just one assist in their first round series.

2 Vaclav Prospal: Ask $52 million man Daniel Briere why he's now playing his best hockey of the season, and he'll point to the arrival of Prospal. Frustrated by the way he was used in Tampa, the crafty left winger found instant chemistry – and consistent first line minutes – with Briere in Philly. He's chipped in 23 points in 25 games, including three goals and nine points in the first round series against Washington.

3 Marian Hossa: His average of six shots per game in the first round illustrates the fast chemistry he's found with Sidney Crosby. His two-way game allows the Pens to separate Crosby and Evgeni Malkin, and gives them the two most dangerous lines in the postseason. But his biggest impact may have been cerebral, rather than on the scoreboard. When Ray Shero dealt considerable treasure to acquire the impending free agent, the message was clear: Win now. The Pens are playing like they believe they can.

4. Sergei Fedorov: Perhaps inspired by his rescue from the sinking ship that was the Blue Jackets, the Fedorov who suited up for the Caps was a more aggressive and motivated asset than he'd been in years. He was an ideal replacement for the injured Michael Nylander, adding experience and defensive savvy to a young roster that was aching for veteran leadership.

5. Cristobal Huet: The clock has already struck midnight on Washington's season, but Cinderella wouldn't have made it to the ball in the first place were it not for the reliable play of Huet. He earned criticism for some shaky work in the first two games against the Flyers, but rebounded strongly to help the Caps stretch the series to overtime of the seventh game.

6. Hal Gill: Don't laugh. The defender whose legs appeared rooted into the ice on too many nights with the Leafs has rediscovered his game with the Pens. Credit coach Mike Therrien for slotting him into the proper role, and allowing him to stay within his comfort zone. His simple, physical approach has solidified both the third pairing and the penalty kill, but his best work may be ahead of him. He's been a Jagr-killer his entire career, and Gill's ability to contain the most dangerous Ranger could tilt the series in Pittsburgh's favor.

7 Brad Richards: Although he struggled to find his place in the Stars' lineup leading up to the playoffs, the biggest catch of deadline day appears to have chemistry with a pair of Swedish wingers: Loui Eriksson and Joel Lundqvist. The trio combined for 14 points against the Ducks, and gave the Stars three threatening lines. Still, you have to think he can be better. He'll have to be if Dallas is to get past San Jose.

8. Brian Campbell: Undeniably brilliant down the stretch, Campbell slid seamlessly into San Jose's roster, kickstarting the stalled engine that was the Sharks' transition game. But he's been an underachiever during the playoffs, making a number of questionable decision both with and without the puck. Hey, if he's ranked below Hal Gill, you know he's not meeting expectations
i'd say its too early to talk about matchups against the west yet, but other than that if the pens dont win the cup, the trade was bad i agree. i enjoy your hyperbolic certainty about the finals going the west's way, though :D
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i enjoy your hyperbolic certainty about the finals going the west's way, though :D
Any of the 4 best teams in the West (Detroit, Dallas, Anaheim, San Jose) are heads and shoulders above anyone in the east. Maybe Montreal can make a series of it against the weakest of the Western bunch, but no way an Eastern Conference team – especially the porcelain Penguins – are beating any of those 4 in a seven-game series.
my point is there is a lot of hockey to be played before the finals. lots of time for injuries, players to get hot, cool off, ect

and even once the series starts, they still have to play the games
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
avery has a lacerated spleen
yikes
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3375123
damn! not good for us. a pity that we are prob going to lose the series 4-0. so much for the cup in nyc :(
Originally posted by i'm her slave:


Someone who may know a bit more than the "porn star":

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/183695
Allan Muir

One of the toughest tricks of this profession is the deadline day trade breakdown story.

It's really a no-win proposition. Everyone wants to talk about who got the better end of a deal, but at the same time, they realize that the winner – if there is one – won't become clear for months, maybe years. Best case scenario: The knee-jerk reactions provide plenty of fodder for fan banter.

Yet, here I am again, strangely compelled to talk about who made the savviest moves as the clock wound down. And really, why not? Last-minute reinforcements have been critical to the late runs, and early playoff success, of several clubs.

Here, then, is my ranking of the most impactful acquisitions (so far) of Deadline Day '08:

1A and B: Adam Foote (photo) and Ruslan Salei: The addition of these hard rock defenders didn't generate much of a splash on deadline day, but their physical presence clearly re-booted the battered Avs blueline. Both are eating up more than 20 minutes a night, and their calm, consistent performance has played a large role in the postseason success of Jose Theodore (Thursday night, notwithstanding). It was primarily the work of Foote and partner Kent Sauer that knocked the starch out of Minnesota's Marian Gaborik, limiting him to just one assist in their first round series.
Tonight has shown using Alan Muir's insightful analysis to back up your homerism is like having Rev. Wright as your spiritual adviser.

Detroit 8 - Avs 2 and series sweep.

Let's see how Alan Muir's #1a and #1b 'Most Impactful Acquisitions' do?
Foote +/- -3
Salei +/- -3

You really should change that to someone who
really doesn't know a bit more than the "porn star".


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And is it me or does Mr. Muir look like he belongs here?
Men who look like old lesbians
i much as i love the ass-whuppin the wings gave to the boy-loving avs, its bad for the caps:

huet and jose theodore are the only decent free agent talents out there, and theodore only completed one second round game. guess who the money's gonna be thrown at?
the caps have two super euro prospects, but with ollie retiring, they're faced with a big-money long-term deal with huet or relying on rookies in goal next year.

aanyhoo, fuck philly, fuck the avs, LETS GO RED WINGS!
Originally posted by likorice:
aanyhoo, fuck philly, fuck the avs, LETS GO RED WINGS!
Smartest thing said in this thread.
Originally posted by slappy:
…gibberish…
Hey Slappy -

Why didn't Ovechkin shoot?
LETS GO RA'A'ANGERS…LETS GO RA'A'A'ANGERS!!!

I'm rooting for whoever is playing the pittsburgh penfags, unless it's the Philly flying turds, in which case *I hope the stadium implodes during game 1 of the series.


*not really, but you get my point.
so if/when the pens beat the rangers, the pens will also be making caps bandwagoneers cry? awesome.
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
so if/when the pens beat the rangers, the pens will also be making caps bandwagoneers cry? awesome.
Hardly a bandwagoner…I had season tickets to the caps when you were still shitting in your daiper
i thought you only came here in the 80s
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
the pens will also be making caps bandwagoneers cry? awesome.
A Pen-tard calling other fans bandwagoners!
Too funny!

I think it's safe to say they won't be crying. Using logic, I know, I know … you Pen-tards hate logic, the definition of a bandwagoner is someone that doesn't care unless the team is winning.

However Crosby crying in the next round is a guarantee.
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