everybodys dmb opinion

skeeter

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 03:06 PM UTC #

Originally posted by j-money:
That being said, whats everybodys opinion on other jam bands? Any phish love? allmans? bela fleck?

I don't like jam-bands as a whole, but I love the good ol' Grateful Dead. I stopped paying attention to the Allmans after they kicked-out Dickey, but up until then they were terrific. Word is they're still great live, but I couldn't really say. I saw Dickey Betts last week at the State Theater. He's still got it. I never got Bela Fleck. Just not my thing. As for Phish, I'd rather have my eyes poked out with a rusty fork.

Ratdog tickets go on sale tomorrow. I'll definitely go to that one.

bunnyman

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 03:21 PM UTC #

In terms of what I listen to, these days it's a lot of New Order, Chemical Brothers, Queens of the Stone Age, Cass McCombs, Cocteau Twins, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, Interpol, DOA, and I've gotten back to my obsession with the late 70's LA punk scene: The Weirdos, the Germs, X, and best of all…the Screamers.

kosmo

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 03:26 PM UTC #

i'm just a music snob in general and will echo Chaz's comment about DM's lyrics… just because one is a "good" musician doesn't automatically them a good songwriter. dmb is music for drunk white people to dance too, as mentioned is "lite" everything.

want recommendations, seek out Don Dixon, Isaac Hayes, Sly and Family Stone, Love, The Features, The Detroit Cobras, etc lather rinse repeat

Rhett Miller

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 03:27 PM UTC #

Chuck, looks like we have a love connection!

Originally posted by HERR DOKTOR-DOOM:

Originally posted by bunnyman:
The only bands I hate more than DMB are probably the Barenaked Ladies, Everything, and maybe Emmet Swimming. Whew…OK, I feel better now!

Dude, you just listed the bands I hate more than any other bands in the world. And I don't hate easily 'cuz I'm a hata' hata', not a hata'. You rock!

ggw

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 03:27 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
I don't like jam-bands as a whole, but I love the good ol' Grateful Dead. I stopped paying attention to the Allmans after they kicked-out Dickey, but up until then they were terrific. Word is they're still great live, but I couldn't really say. I saw Dickey Betts last week at the State Theater. He's still got it. I never got Bela Fleck. Just not my thing. As for Phish, I'd rather have my eyes poked out with a rusty fork.

Ratdog tickets go on sale tomorrow. I'll definitely go to that one.

I agree on all counts.

I've also caught the Derek Trucks Band a couple of times and, while I wouldn't go out of my way to see him, he's pretty good.

skeeter

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 03:39 PM UTC #

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I've also caught the Derek Trucks Band a couple of times and, while I wouldn't go out of my way to see him, he's pretty good.

Derek's a great guitar player, but I find his solo stuff a bit boring.

blacksun89

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 07:08 PM UTC #

DMB is the worst band i have hever heard. Their music (and i use the term music loosly) is low level crap. I cant stand to listen to them for more than 10 seconds. Then theres Dave himself any one who thinks he sings well must be clinically retarded (This means you Justin). his voice resembles a goat with epilepsy exiting the womb at 90 MPH. All you yuppies and preps out there should start listening to some good music like Led Zepplin, AC/DC and Black Sabbath.
~David

Rhett Miller

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 07:11 PM UTC #

Thanks for the input, David. There you have it folks, the definitive Dave Matthews Band post. Now go roll a joint, David.

Originally posted by blacksun89:
DMB is the worst band i have hever heard. Their music (and i use the term music loosly) is low level crap. I cant stand to listen to them for more than 10 seconds. Then theres Dave himself any one who thinks he sings well must be clinically retarded (This means you Justin). his voice resembles a goat with epilepsy exiting the womb at 90 MPH. All you yuppies and preps out there should start listening to some good music like Led Zepplin, AC/DC and Black Sabbath.
~David

mr_eff

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 08:42 PM UTC #

Originally posted by blacksun89:
All you yuppies and preps out there should start listening to some good music like Led Zepplin, AC/DC and Black Sabbath.
~David

I like AC/DC as much as the next guy, but I don't know if I'd hold them up as the standard for good music.

But that's just me. Oh, and I'd also suggest that your naming of Black Sabbath needs to be accompanied by a mention of which era you're thinking of. Ozzy's Black Sabbath != Ronnie James Dio's Black Sabbath. Failing to disassociate yourself with liking the Ronnie James Dio era Black Sabbath seriously harms your credibility.

:)

K8teebug

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 08:48 PM UTC #

I love all kinds of music. But Dave Matthews is DUMB.

chaz

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 10:58 PM UTC #

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Love, The Detroit Cobras

Kosmo, I think you are my soulmate.
You aren't by any chance an extrmely rich and beautiful woman are you?

azaghal1981

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 11:10 PM UTC #

I do like a ton of pre-hiatus phish and even some of the post-hiatus shit is ok as well but Trey Anastasio's inability to remember many of his compositions toward the end of their career was too much of a distraction for me to listen to any of their live stuff from 2003-2004. Many of their albums such as rift, a picture of nectar and Junta however are masterpieces imo and their live shit from the 90's->2000 is great.

bags

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 11:38 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Mr. Eff:
Their music had incredible musicianship combined with some very accessible and catchy songs.

Hmmmm, interesting take. I know little of Dave Matthews outside what most fairly aware Joe Public music listeners do. I saw Matthews at the Move On concert last Fall, and was aghast – the man played three chords. I didn't think I was a huge fan, but I found very little musicianship in the sampling played that night. Though the level of musicianship of an artist or band is not directly correlated to whether people enjoy their music (so I'm not saying Matthews sucks completely, but fine musician seems a stretch…).

bags

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 09, 2005 at 11:45 PM UTC #

Originally posted by j-money:
allright, jesus guys im sry i posted. You can just say u dont like it without making a big fuckin deal.

Ask a question, get an answer. That's what people do, esp in a music forum. We could've told you the ratio of DMB fans here would be heavily weighted towards "not fans." No one flamed you – an opinion sometimes includes, "that's the worst music I've ever heard." ;)

proudestmonkey22

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 10, 2005 at 12:45 AM UTC #

hmmmm…….touche bags….touche…….

blacksun89

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 10, 2005 at 01:30 AM UTC #

Originally posted by Mr. Eff:

Originally posted by blacksun89:
All you yuppies and preps out there should start listening to some good music like Led Zepplin, AC/DC and Black Sabbath.
~David
I like AC/DC as much as the next guy, but I don't know if I'd hold them up as the standard for good music.

But that's just me. Oh, and I'd also suggest that your naming of Black Sabbath needs to be accompanied by a mention of which era you're thinking of. Ozzy's Black Sabbath != Ronnie James Dio's Black Sabbath. Failing to disassociate yourself with liking the Ronnie James Dio era Black Sabbath seriously harms your credibility.

:)

snailhook

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 10, 2005 at 01:32 AM UTC #

to answer the question, i absolutely loathe dave matthews' music. and no, i'm not close-minded (unless you think somebody with 5000+ albums can be). when i first heard about him, i was in high school and hung out with some deadheads who tried to turn me on to DMB. i read some stuff about them, how they were multi-racial, had a sax player and a violinist, mixed jazz and folk with rock, etc., and was intrigued. when i finally heard it, i was appalled by matthews' annoying vocals and lack of balls or beauty in any of the music. and what's worse, they've only gotten lamer over the years.

and i hate it when DMB fans refer to him as "dave" and expect you to know who they're talking about. oh really, you saw "dave" last night? i'd rather think of dave fucking navarro instead (and that's not saying much).

anyway, some other random thoughts:

and I've gotten back to my obsession with the late 70's LA punk scene: The Weirdos, the Germs, X, and best of all…the Screamers.

mucho points for dropping the screamers, chaz. i finally just got a collection of demos and outtakes on vinyl. groundbreaking stuff that has (directly and indirectly) influenced a couple of generations of synthy post-punk.

i know it's hip to hate the dead, but i ain't buying it. they were a great live band in the '60s and their records weren't too shabby, either. i like them pretty much up until 1975, and then they got bad pretty quick. you can say the same thing about genesis, steve miller, and fleetwood mac (though i can find some worth in their california cokehead phase). i did see them a couple of times in the early '90s and those were two of the worst shows i've ever seen.

the allman brothers were also great on record until 1975. though they sucked less than the dead, their records were just predictable exercises on the same formula. however, i have seen them live a couple of times as well and they were terrific (though i have no idea what they're like without dickey betts and with derek trucks). i'm not really intrigued enough to bother, though if someone gave me a free ticket, i wouldn't turn down an opportunity to hear "blue sky" or "whipping post" live again.

i hate phish but not as much as DMB.

blacksun89

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 10, 2005 at 01:32 AM UTC #

Originally posted by Mr. Eff:

Originally posted by blacksun89:
All you yuppies and preps out there should start listening to some good music like Led Zepplin, AC/DC and Black Sabbath.
~David
I like AC/DC as much as the next guy, but I don't know if I'd hold them up as the standard for good music.

But that's just me. Oh, and I'd also suggest that your naming of Black Sabbath needs to be accompanied by a mention of which era you're thinking of. Ozzy's Black Sabbath != Ronnie James Dio's Black Sabbath. Failing to disassociate yourself with liking the Ronnie James Dio era Black Sabbath seriously harms your credibility.

:)

good point. I'd like to clear that up Ronnie James Dio totally ruined Black sabbath. The Black sabbath I know and love's singer was Ozzy all the way

snailhook

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 10, 2005 at 01:41 AM UTC #

good point. I'd like to clear that up Ronnie James Dio totally ruined Black sabbath. The Black sabbath I know and love's singer was Ozzy all the way

i'm a huge sabbath fan (the first six records are untouchable), but i have to disagree here. technical ecstasy and never say die are really not that good. heaven and hell and mob rules are better records, IMO. i know dio is a cheeseball, but he did sing on those two albums, and also was in rainbow, who had some awesome hard rock classics in the mid-'70s. geezer butler wrote much of the lyrics and music for sabbath (as did tony iommi), so it's not fair to say that dio "ruined" the band. they got much worse in the years after dio.

strangely enough, ozzy's best records are with randy rhoads and he's pretty much sucked since then.

proudestmonkey22

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Re: everybodys dmb opinion March 10, 2005 at 02:19 AM UTC #

ok lol it seems ive gotten everybodys opinion on them…..thank you for posting, very appreciated