everybodys dmb opinion

Originally posted by j-money:
ok lol it seems ive gotten everybodys opinion on them…..thank you for posting, very appreciated

is this the third time you've tried to finish this thread off?

dave matthews haters shall not be stopped by a simple: "ok guys, nothing to see here, keep moving" … looks like you're gonna have to really beg to end this one

All February I listened to nothing but The Jam. I don't think I have ever heard a Style Council song.

i agree with kosmo's assessment of the style council. early stuff pretty good, later stuff blah. i'll take weller solo over most style council.

the jam could not be fucked with. every record was brilliant.

Originally posted by snailhook:

and I've gotten back to my obsession with the late 70's LA punk scene: The Weirdos, the Germs, X, and best of all…the Screamers.

mucho points for dropping the screamers, chaz.

Sorry but I can't take credit for that. I think it was Bunnyman who mentioned the Screamers etc., although I did have Group Sex on the stereo earlier. And before that me and my daughter were dancing around to the first Ramones record. She'll never know how proud that makes me….

So anyway Bunnyman gets the cool points….my last post was a marriage proposal to Kosmo on the grounds of his undying love for Love and the Detroit Cobras.

well chaz, your undying love for kosmo for his undying love of love has caused me to have undying love for you. since forever changes is my favorite album ever, i hereby decree that you have more points than bunnyman for giving props to the screamers.

does that make up for my fuck-up?

Originally posted by chaz:

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Love, The Detroit Cobras

Kosmo, I think you are my soulmate.
You aren't by any chance an extrmely rich and beautiful woman are you?

sorry nope and nope, although you should see me in a kilt

Originally posted by snailhook:
well chaz, your undying love for kosmo for his undying love of love has caused me to have undying love for you. since forever changes is my favorite album ever, i hereby decree that you have more points than bunnyman for giving props to the screamers.

does that make up for my fuck-up?

Unlike Kosmo, I'm quite sure you are a rich and beautiful woman. What are you doing for the next 20 years? What do you say we hit the road and follow Love around like a couple of Love-heads? They're in Europe this spring!

lets talk more style council…

Those singles that transitioned Weller from the The Jam to the Style Council were top notch stuff. I suspect they were orginially written as Jam songs. Just listen to the Jam's vs Style Council version of "A Solid Bond In Your Heart". As great of a rhythm section as Foxton & Buckler were, they were a rock solid unit and Weller was wanting to flex his Northern Soul roots which they weren't up to. I've heard "Snap" being associated with Buckler's sound.

So Weller brings in Talbot and drummer extraordinary Steve White and is able to create the new sound with TSC he wasn't able with the Jam . Although things went pear shaped when he tried to do incorporate funk and jazz into the mix and his ego went completely overboard with "Confessions of A Pop Group" complete with a 10 minute Suite.

My ex has it now, but the Style Council boxset included the entire "lost" album his record company refused to release. I only heard it a couple times and liked it's attempt at fusing house music and Weller's songwriting.

Yes, it was me who mentioned the Screamers. They fucking rule.

Originally posted by j-money:
ok lol it seems ive gotten everybodys opinion on them…..thank you for posting, very appreciated

Yes, but see, you've been privy to much more knowledge since your question….take it in!

Who and where do they rule?

Originally posted by bunnyman:
Yes, it was me who mentioned the Screamers. They fucking rule.

The sexual undertones of this thread are freaking me out more than the fact that somebody actually asked us what we thought of the DMB.

Originally posted by snailhook:
i agree with kosmo's assessment of the style council. early stuff pretty good, later stuff blah. i'll take weller solo over most style council.

One of my biggest "dear god!" moments of the Live Aid DVD collection was when The Style Council came out. Abolute flashback from hell.

Originally posted by Bags:

Originally posted by Mr. Eff:
Their music had incredible musicianship combined with some very accessible and catchy songs.

Hmmmm, interesting take. I know little of Dave Matthews outside what most fairly aware Joe Public music listeners do. I saw Matthews at the Move On concert last Fall, and was aghast – the man played three chords. I didn't think I was a huge fan, but I found very little musicianship in the sampling played that night. Though the level of musicianship of an artist or band is not directly correlated to whether people enjoy their music (so I'm not saying Matthews sucks completely, but fine musician seems a stretch…).

When I talk about musicianship, I usually think of the other members of the band, especially Carter Beauford on the drums. I love listening to him play, and I find his rhythms, tricks, and embellishments to be outstanding. Tim Reynolds, who plays on most of the albums, is another example of an amazing technical musician.

But if you saw them last fall, they were most likely playing a lot of their recent material, which as I already mentioned is likened to a crap sandwich. I first saw them at Great Woods in MA in '95, when they were more like a fun jam band, and much less like an adult contemporary superstar. They were good times.

Well, how do you think I feel? I live in Charlottesville. Every other day it's, "Ooh, I cut Dave's hair," or "I waited on the saxaphonist and his daughter, and he gave me a $40.oo tip." I'm actually good friends with DMB's project manager, who has also worked for Spiritualized and Underworld.

Don't get me started on the John Grisham, Sissy Spacek, Jessica Lange and Sam Sheppard sightings.

The Screamers, 1977-1980 (I believe), from LA…punk band using only 2 keyboards and drums, made some of the most unsettling and fantastic punk music of the late 1970's. Totally ahead of their time, some 20 years before Prodigy was doing "Firestarter" and that's what they were doing, but with a Fender Rhodes piano. Lead singer Tomata du Plenty was pretty tone deaf, but his venom made up for it. Just a phenomenal band, they never released an LP but have a DVD that came out on Target Video last year that is worth getting.

Originally posted by Mr. Eff:
When I talk about musicianship, I usually think of the other members of the band, especially Carter Beauford on the drums. I love listening to him play, and I find his rhythms, tricks, and embellishments to be outstanding. Tim Reynolds, who plays on most of the albums, is another example of an amazing technical musician.

Many fans say this…but I still cannot jump on board.

Originally posted by Chisai Fry:
Well, how do you think I feel? I live in Charlottesville. Every other day it's, "Ooh, I cut Dave's hair," or "I waited on the saxaphonist and his daughter, and he gave me a $40.oo tip." I'm actually good friends with DMB's project manager, who has also worked for Spiritualized and Underworld.

Hmmm…your "I'm actually good friends with DMB's project manager" comment sure sounds like the sort of "I cut Dave's hair" brag you seem to be ranking on. But whatever…..