no . . . oh good lord lord no. that was just an idea, maybe a silly idea to get "future" crazy people off the streets . . . but how do you do that really? i'm not a fan of guns at all. they scare me in the hands of people that should not have them, which is a lot, and you might shoot your eye out. the whole arguement of whether we should have them or not is so far beyond complicated to me to even want to discuss it here, in a thread about a horrible horrible thing. i do feel the nra is just another corporation like any other making money on what they believe in, like any other, and making the world go 'round. actually, i feel this thread is horrible as well, and feel dirty for posting in it.
RE: CT School Massacre
My bad.
There have just been tons of studies done that prove the contrary with regard to the protection argument.
There have just been tons of studies done that prove the contrary with regard to the protection argument.
There is no perfect answer. What do you do abut all the guns already in circulation? In this case, it looks like having some sort of mental health check before buying a weapon (obviously a smart thing) wouldn't have mattered because from what I have read, the guns belonged to his mother.
Got wrote:
There is no perfect answer. What do you do abut all the guns already in circulation? In this case, it looks like having some sort of mental health check before buying a weapon (obviously a smart thing) wouldn't have mattered because from what I have read, the guns belonged to his mother.
20 year jail term for having a gun after a specific date. If people keep them they are risking spending most of their life in jail. Right now even if you carry illegal you get a slap on the wrist.
Plus a buyback/turn in program. it HAS been done and it has worked
RustyOrgan wrote:
All - Let's take a minute to thank the NRA for making school shootings like this one, and future ones, possible!
NRA Headquarters
Address: 11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030
Phone:(703) 267-1000
http://home.nra.org/
What made this possible was making the school a gun free zone thereby telling criminals that it is absolutely safe for them to commit crimes in that area since no one will be armed to stop them. And lest you think differently, there is absolutely NOTHING that you or anyone else can do that will prevent this from happening again. Criminals by nature break laws. Passing any/every/all laws we could think of will not change that fact and the fact that criminals will still get guns.
atomicfront wrote:sweetcell wrote:atomicfront wrote:
If today isn't a day to talk about gun control, when is?
it's never a good time. on a day like today, it's "politicizing a tragedy" and "let's just think of the victims". on any other day, it's "why are you bringing this up? gun control isn't a problem, don't stir things up!". rather convenient…lagas wrote:
fuck the second amendment
no, it's there and we won't get rid of it any time soon IMO. instead, let's return to it's original intent. ya want guns? fine, prove that you're part of a "well regulated militia": you have a chain of command. train as a group, stay in barracks, can be told to surrender your guns by your superiors, you have a mission, etc. anyone who can't adhere to this is just a yahoo who want to own a flame-thrower. fuck District of Columbia v. Heller.
people don't need to be in militias. People do not need guns to hunt. Use a bow if you want to kill something. It isn't like the constitution can't be changed. We don't have slaves anymore. We don't need guns.
People don't need cars. Walk if you want to go somewhere.
People don't need medicine. If you get sick you were supposed to die anyway.
People don't need don't need electricity. Do whatever you want to do during daylight.
notme wrote:
ever since obama was elected/re-elected people have been buying guns and ammo in record numbers. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and his 10-year-old daughter Liza went hunting over Thanksgiving weekend his daughter killed her first deer.
Congrats to her!
What we need is to stop this libtard thought mind set where we no longer have any personal responsibility. This event was caused by the mother not being responsible. If I were the DA and she had not been killed I would have charged her with 26 counts of criminally negligent homicide. It was her actions of bringing a gun into the home of a mentally ill child (or lack thereof by not preventing said son from gaining access to the gun) that directly led to this while thing. But as with our supreme campaigner in chief, everything is always someone else's fault.
Personally I was highly offended by Bammy going to the service in CT and making a blatant polticial speech pushing his left wing agenda. That was the most disrespectful thing I have ever seen any president of the USA ever do.
Personally I was highly offended by Bammy going to the service in CT and making a blatant polticial speech pushing his left wing agenda. That was the most disrespectful thing I have ever seen any president of the USA ever do.
atomicfront wrote:Got wrote:
There is no perfect answer. What do you do abut all the guns already in circulation? In this case, it looks like having some sort of mental health check before buying a weapon (obviously a smart thing) wouldn't have mattered because from what I have read, the guns belonged to his mother.
20 year jail term for having a gun after a specific date. If people keep them they are risking spending most of their life in jail. Right now even if you carry illegal you get a slap on the wrist.
And the criminals will still have guns. Only the honest citizens will turn in their guns. Then we will have more of these killings because the criminals know there is no risk of them being stopped. The countries with the strictest gun laws have the highest rates of gun violence, but as is usual, libtards never pay attention to facts.
There he is.
I knew you would show up eventually.
The stats speak for themselves. We are the "developed" country with the least stringent gun laws and are the only one that sees mass shootings like this on too regular a basis.
I knew you would show up eventually.
The stats speak for themselves. We are the "developed" country with the least stringent gun laws and are the only one that sees mass shootings like this on too regular a basis.
RatBastard wrote:
And the criminals will still have guns. Only the honest citizens will turn in their guns. Then we will have more of these killings because the criminals know there is no risk of them being stopped.
it's not "criminals" who commit these massacres, it's the mentally ill. and they kill themselves at the end, so i highly doubt there is added incentive, as you suggest.
epic meltdown, ratbastard
people who publicly "mourn" the death of those killed at Newton (post pictures of them on Facebook etc) but insist we can't do anything about preventing these things are really pissing me off.
RatBastard wrote:atomicfront wrote:sweetcell wrote:atomicfront wrote:
If today isn't a day to talk about gun control, when is?
it's never a good time. on a day like today, it's "politicizing a tragedy" and "let's just think of the victims". on any other day, it's "why are you bringing this up? gun control isn't a problem, don't stir things up!". rather convenient…lagas wrote:
fuck the second amendment
no, it's there and we won't get rid of it any time soon IMO. instead, let's return to it's original intent. ya want guns? fine, prove that you're part of a "well regulated militia": you have a chain of command. train as a group, stay in barracks, can be told to surrender your guns by your superiors, you have a mission, etc. anyone who can't adhere to this is just a yahoo who want to own a flame-thrower. fuck District of Columbia v. Heller.
people don't need to be in militias. People do not need guns to hunt. Use a bow if you want to kill something. It isn't like the constitution can't be changed. We don't have slaves anymore. We don't need guns.
People don't need cars. Walk if you want to go somewhere.
People don't need medicine. If you get sick you were supposed to die anyway.
People don't need don't need electricity. Do whatever you want to do during daylight.
weak argument. guns are for killing things. medicine is not intended to kill people. either is electricity or cars.
hutch wrote:
people who publicly "mourn" the death of those killed at Newton (post pictures of them on Facebook etc) but insist we can't do anything about preventing these things are really pissing me off.
they are responsible. that is what they should post on their facebook pages.
RatBastard wrote:
People don't need cars. Walk if you want to go somewhere.
People don't need medicine. If you get sick you were supposed to die anyway.
People don't need don't need electricity. Do whatever you want to do during daylight.
people don't need guns. they just don't.