gee thanks walkie… i'm going to spend the rest of my day listening to The Smiths and then cook a batch of meth
RE: CT School Massacre
i thought this image was posted the image as a joke and then I saw who posted it and find it sad that someone could actually believe the message and think it was a good thing.
RatBastard wrote:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/575029_407660542649516_1618124590_n.jpg
further highlighting the idiocy of the guntards. america was also founded by rural farmers who had 10 kids and died at age 38 of typhoid and dysentery - i.e. NOTHING like the america we have today. if you're going to get all historical about this, let's go all the way.
gun owners are not protecting the republic from anything. if you think your gun will protect you from "a tyrannical government" then you're as idiotic as you sound. RB, i've pointed out the lunacy of these statements previously and asked you some pointed questions… yet you ignored them and keep spewing this mental drivel. keep up the hate. it'll serve you well.
I wish I had posted before the argument moved to arguing about arguing. . .
The gunzos forget the part about responsible gun ownership. I don't think anyone (except those on the far left) is really talking about total outlawing of guns, but neither are people talking about what responsible means. I understand the scare tactics of the NRA, entertainment is more violent, but doesn't that statement also go against some of the other rhetoric that the "right" espouses, free enterprise and market demand? Why can we/they speak out against violence in the entertainment sphere but not in the real world.
After 9/11 (hope it's not too soon to invoke) George W. Bush (a president I was not fond of, but wouldn't go so far as to libel, or disparage on a personal level in a public sphere. . . nothing nice to say and all. . . but I do think he tried to make a positive impact on certain things that his party spent the past two cycles trying to demonize. . . Immigration reform to name one… You don't have to be a dick to be partisan. Also I am sorry for the long aside, but I just finished reading Shame by Salman Rushdie so. . . digression city) told people to go on about their lives "get down to Disney" shop. With what money though? A lot of spending was done on the credit card (or credit as a system of transaction). Now this same party wants to obstruct normal functions like debt ceiling talks (also up for negotiations, beyond this whole fiscal cliff jibber jabber), and call for de-funding programs, like subsidized after school aide and activities, that have been shown to help keep kids stabilized. All differing levels of irresponsibility.
. . . and as far as guns. . . let people have what they want (for the most part, and within reason), but regulate on a sliding scale (though I will admit I am not experienced in the differences between the regulations for buying an AR or AK versus a six shooter pistol). Require not just background checks, but credit checks (I mean you can't get a job without one), check Facebook pages (again job scouts look at them), if something comes up, require mental evaluations (and possibly updates), maybe require owners to purchase insurance (new income streams) and update this information regularly.
I love the car analogy because of these reasons of which I kept on coming back to when talking to a co-worker about it the day of.
Before you buy a car (in theory) you have to get a permit, it requires a test (and yes some people just wing it) to show you have adequate fluency in the basic theory of driving. You then (in many states, it's been awhile I don't know how wide reaching this is) have to take lessons in driving from a (qualified, arguably) professional, showing time spent in practice. Then you take a separate test, (and granted again sometimes not the hardest, but sometimes very relevant. I took a road test and failed several times for not understanding the difference between the practice of driving and the laws of driving) proving the knowledge of theory in relation to practice (I am against parking lot driving tests, maybe just jealous). Then you get your license, which has to be renewed regularly and is subject to confiscation for misuse. Also, more is required of you as your abilities become compromised (my grandmother is still on the road so effectiveness, debatable).
All of this regulation is for automobiles, which serve a multitude of purposes (but also cause on average well more than the amount of deaths that guns cause) as opposed to guns, (and I say this with no antipathy) which only have the purpose of destroying something (from inanimate targets, to lives). You also can't sell a car (regardless of how/where) without transferring the title and then registering it with your local government. . . All I'm saying is I guess that gun ownership is a privilege, like driving. Shouldn't it take more than it currently does to prove that a person can take responsibility for having said privilege? I am leaving out other things (like in home safety, ability of non-permit holders to handle guns owned by permitted owners). . .
But, this post has gone on so long that no one will read it. . . and it could be so boring as to serve to at least end this topic. . . but maybe I'm taking too much credit.
The gunzos forget the part about responsible gun ownership. I don't think anyone (except those on the far left) is really talking about total outlawing of guns, but neither are people talking about what responsible means. I understand the scare tactics of the NRA, entertainment is more violent, but doesn't that statement also go against some of the other rhetoric that the "right" espouses, free enterprise and market demand? Why can we/they speak out against violence in the entertainment sphere but not in the real world.
After 9/11 (hope it's not too soon to invoke) George W. Bush (a president I was not fond of, but wouldn't go so far as to libel, or disparage on a personal level in a public sphere. . . nothing nice to say and all. . . but I do think he tried to make a positive impact on certain things that his party spent the past two cycles trying to demonize. . . Immigration reform to name one… You don't have to be a dick to be partisan. Also I am sorry for the long aside, but I just finished reading Shame by Salman Rushdie so. . . digression city) told people to go on about their lives "get down to Disney" shop. With what money though? A lot of spending was done on the credit card (or credit as a system of transaction). Now this same party wants to obstruct normal functions like debt ceiling talks (also up for negotiations, beyond this whole fiscal cliff jibber jabber), and call for de-funding programs, like subsidized after school aide and activities, that have been shown to help keep kids stabilized. All differing levels of irresponsibility.
. . . and as far as guns. . . let people have what they want (for the most part, and within reason), but regulate on a sliding scale (though I will admit I am not experienced in the differences between the regulations for buying an AR or AK versus a six shooter pistol). Require not just background checks, but credit checks (I mean you can't get a job without one), check Facebook pages (again job scouts look at them), if something comes up, require mental evaluations (and possibly updates), maybe require owners to purchase insurance (new income streams) and update this information regularly.
I love the car analogy because of these reasons of which I kept on coming back to when talking to a co-worker about it the day of.
Before you buy a car (in theory) you have to get a permit, it requires a test (and yes some people just wing it) to show you have adequate fluency in the basic theory of driving. You then (in many states, it's been awhile I don't know how wide reaching this is) have to take lessons in driving from a (qualified, arguably) professional, showing time spent in practice. Then you take a separate test, (and granted again sometimes not the hardest, but sometimes very relevant. I took a road test and failed several times for not understanding the difference between the practice of driving and the laws of driving) proving the knowledge of theory in relation to practice (I am against parking lot driving tests, maybe just jealous). Then you get your license, which has to be renewed regularly and is subject to confiscation for misuse. Also, more is required of you as your abilities become compromised (my grandmother is still on the road so effectiveness, debatable).
All of this regulation is for automobiles, which serve a multitude of purposes (but also cause on average well more than the amount of deaths that guns cause) as opposed to guns, (and I say this with no antipathy) which only have the purpose of destroying something (from inanimate targets, to lives). You also can't sell a car (regardless of how/where) without transferring the title and then registering it with your local government. . . All I'm saying is I guess that gun ownership is a privilege, like driving. Shouldn't it take more than it currently does to prove that a person can take responsibility for having said privilege? I am leaving out other things (like in home safety, ability of non-permit holders to handle guns owned by permitted owners). . .
But, this post has gone on so long that no one will read it. . . and it could be so boring as to serve to at least end this topic. . . but maybe I'm taking too much credit.
kosmo wrote:
gee thanks walkie… i'm going to spend the rest of my day listening to The Smiths and then cook a batch of meth
sorry ;)
just trying to end this thread anyway possible
maybe i'll post naked men holding cats in it, next
this thread will never end
sorry i yelled at you the other day
i was really sick
i don't even know why i yelled at you now
i did yell at you, didn't i?
i was really sick
i don't even know why i yelled at you now
i did yell at you, didn't i?
evilizac wrote:All guns should be banned. There are countries that are much safer than ours where even the police are not allowed guns. Total banning of guns is the solution. But we can start by banning anything that has a clip. But the solution is getting rid of them all. If someone shoots you with a sawed off shutgun you still die. I don't see the point of keeping any guns in ciruclation to the public. More people are killed in single incidents than are killed in mass shootings. The mass shootings just get more publlicity.
I wish I had posted before the argument moved to arguing about arguing. . .
The gunzos forget the part about responsible gun ownership. I don't think anyone (except those on the far left) is really talking about total outlawing of guns, but neither are people talking about what responsible means.
hutch . . . where do you keep all of your cds and lps?
i used to be so anti download, so anti anything but cds. i hated the fact that the artist was getting shit on. azag used to frown at me. but then i realized, where do i keep putting all this space? i had to go cd less, no more tangible media of any kind. i got rid of it all, except special edition stuff or hard to find out of print box stuff. dvds too. no more.
i used to be so anti download, so anti anything but cds. i hated the fact that the artist was getting shit on. azag used to frown at me. but then i realized, where do i keep putting all this space? i had to go cd less, no more tangible media of any kind. i got rid of it all, except special edition stuff or hard to find out of print box stuff. dvds too. no more.
I have this.
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00208646/
Each shelf space is big enough to accommodate 12" LPs.
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00208646/
Each shelf space is big enough to accommodate 12" LPs.
what are your ambitions in life, atomicfront? do you have dreams unfilled. i do. i'm realizing slowly that i have wasted my life on working jobs and relationing humans. i suffered myslef into a box where i was doing nothing but pleasing others and never myself. a map to complete and a hand that will not write it. i almost died. it wakes you up. i don't like the new vision it gave me; it shows all the failures out front, but also an incentive to achieve.
don't almost die to understand the universe . . . it might be too late.
don't almost die to understand the universe . . . it might be too late.
walkonby wrote:my ambition is to make this country gun free and have a balanced budget, free college education, cleaner air, more parks. no my dreams will probably not be realized but I still have fun.
what are your ambitions in life, atomicfront? do you have dreams unfilled. i do. i'm realizing slowly that i have wasted my life on working jobs and relationing humans. i suffered myslef into a box where i was doing nothing but pleasing others and never myself. a map to complete and a hand that will not write it. i almost died. it wakes you up. i don't like the new vision it gave me; it shows all the failures out front, but also an incentive to achieve.
don't almost die to understand the universe . . . it might be too late.
i like all of that except free college education. my mother teaches at a college. who would pay the staff? pay to keep the college top o the line? are you doing something to achieve your ambition? i used to think all day about mine, dreaming this and that . . . but that is as far as it would go. i never tried. like those people who bitch about the government all day and how it should be run, but they barely graduated high school and can hardly function beyond the job they currently attempt to be good at. no effort. no try. you seem to have a good heart and a fine mind, especially if you list such admirable things to want for our country. clean air we will have. balanced budget we will have. more parks . . . seeing how we go through over 5000000 trees per year just on christmas wrapping paper, sorry about that one.
this is what i used to think of this thread . . . until i am now slowly taking it over.
grateful wrote:
I have this.
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00208646/
Each shelf space is big enough to accommodate 12" LPs.
I have three of those in my basement…the 4*4 ones.. I also have a 2*4…. and two 2*2 ones..my main record storage units actually… for a total of 64 cubes… I think each one holds about 90 records.. then I have a few crummy shelves for the rest..
i have destroyed so many bookshelves with all my records its nice to find something that actually works…
grateful wrote:
I have this.
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00208646/
Each shelf space is big enough to accommodate 12" LPs.
Their Benno DVD towers can be configured to hold CDs. 180 in regular single cases, but so many of mine are digipak or similar sleeves that I can fit 200 or more easily. $40 or $50 each, easy to build and a tiny footprint. Best CD rack ever.
And my IKEA is less than three miles away ;D
OMG fkjaslkjfmvakefj1!!!!!!!!!!! This is huge.
walkonby wrote:
hutch . . . where do you keep all of your cds and lps?
i used to be so anti download, so anti anything but cds. i hated the fact that the artist was getting shit on. azag used to frown at me. but then i realized, where do i keep putting all this space? i had to go cd less, no more tangible media of any kind. i got rid of it all, except special edition stuff or hard to find out of print box stuff. dvds too. no more.
I've had some custom CD shelves built for me, and in the process of re-doing my liar so will post some pics when it shapes up. As far as record storage, Lowes at one point had some really nice wooden shelving units that were the right depth and height for records. Also, use to be able to get nice particle board cubes the right size for record storage which could be staged.
you should see my comic book collection. i store it in rubbermaid containers away from the light and air. they take up space too. so much space in my room, my partner hates it and wants me to find another way. actually he wants me to sell them all and grow up. sometimes i think i will. i finally am accepting . . . that collecting is stupid.
