OSCAR TALK or Why Mad Max Is The Best Movie of the Year, Sidehatch

The fact is, if you look at the last ten years of nominations for Best Actor and Actress, you see many white people coming up year after year.

Leo Di, Jeff Bridges, Daniel Day Lewis, Eddie Redmayne, Brad Cooper, Clooney, Brad Pitt, Christian Bale, Colin Firth, and Joaquin have all received at least 2 nominations, with four of them winning the Oscar.

In the same decade, Terrence Howard, Forest Whitaker, Will Smith, Morgan Freeman, and Chiwetel Ejiofor were the only black guys to get nominated, and each was only nominated once (Forest was also the only guy who won an Oscar during this time period).

For best actress, three or more noms have been given to Meryl Streep, Cate Blanchett, Kate Winslet, Jennifer Lawrence, and 2 noms to Reese, Sandra Bullock, Judi Dench, Michele Williams, with seven of these women winning the prizee since 2006.

In that same timeframe, only Gabourey Sidibe, Viola Davis, and Quvenzhané Wallis were nominated, once, and none of them won.

Relaxer wrote:
The fact is, if you look at the last ten years of nominations for Best Actor and Actress, you see many white people coming up year after year.

Leo Di, Jeff Bridges, Daniel Day Lewis, Eddie Redmayne, Brad Cooper, Clooney, Brad Pitt, Christian Bale, Colin Firth, and Joaquin have all received at least 2 nominations, with four of them winning the Oscar.

In the same decade, Terrence Howard, Forest Whitaker, Will Smith, Morgan Freeman, and Chiwetel Ejiofor were the only black guys to get nominated, and each was only nominated once (Forest was also the only guy who won an Oscar during this time period).

For best actress, three or more noms have been given to Meryl Streep, Cate Blanchett, Kate Winslet, Jennifer Lawrence, and 2 noms to Reese, Sandra Bullock, Judi Dench, Michele Williams, with seven of these women winning the prizee since 2006.

In that same timeframe, only Gabourey Sidibe, Viola Davis, and Quvenzhané Wallis were nominated, once, and none of them won.

So what is your point?

I'm going to guess that people of color fared much better with Grammy nominations. Maybe ever to the point of being overepresented.

This thread, was getting kind of boring. I'm glad, I could move it along.

Carlos wrote:
Great article about the inanity of the Oscars

This article is the very definition of inanity. Quality of a movie is 100% COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE. THe idea that there is a best, second best, third best, or for that matter "shitty all on their own" movie is completely subjective. This person writes as if ranking movie quality is some kind of quantifiable science. What a fucking idiot.



Take a scroll through the history of Academy Award nominees and winners. The Academy routinely gives its highest award, Best Picture, not just to the second- or third-best movies on offer at the expense of better ones, or to safe movies at the expense of daring ones, or to white-friendly ones at the expense of ones less representative of Hollywood?s institutional racial homogeneity, but to actual bad movies?movies that are shitty all on their own, measured not just against their competition but against any reasonable ideas of what makes a movie good.

Space wrote:

Carlos wrote:
Great article about the inanity of the Oscars

This article is the very definition of inanity. Quality of a movie is 100% COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE. THe idea that there is a best, second best, third best, or for that matter "shitty all on their own" movie is completely subjective. This person writes as if ranking movie quality is some kind of quantifiable science. What a fucking idiot.



Take a scroll through the history of Academy Award nominees and winners. The Academy routinely gives its highest award, Best Picture, not just to the second- or third-best movies on offer at the expense of better ones, or to safe movies at the expense of daring ones, or to white-friendly ones at the expense of ones less representative of Hollywood?s institutional racial homogeneity, but to actual bad movies?movies that are shitty all on their own, measured not just against their competition but against any reasonable ideas of what makes a movie good.

If anyone had any question about the merits of that link, Rhett disagrees with it vociferously which is about the highest compliment a posited argument can be given.

Relaxer wrote:
I'm surprised by all the attention given to Spotlight. It was good but its basically a fictionalized 60 Minutes piece expanded to 2 hours. I enjoy 'procedure' movies but this one just seems to be a standard issue movie.

I really liked Spotlight. I think it was because it felt like an expanded 60 mins piece. I also really like most of the movies that director has done (except for the adam sandler one).

Not all of these are for rent, some are purchase only.  And I apologize for knocking Mad Max - while I don't think it's Best Picture worthy, it FAR EXCEEDED my expectations and was entertained throughout.

17 Oscar-Nominated Movies You Can Stream Right Now

WITH MOVIES LIKE The Revenant and Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens still bringing in millions at the box office, and Quentin Tarantino?s 70mm roadshow version of The Hateful Eight continuing its trek across the country, you can?t yet watch all of this year?s Oscar-nominated movies from the comfort of your living room. (Unless you?re a gazillionaire with one of those crazy screening rooms, and you pay through the nose to watch theatrical-run movies.) But there are plenty you can see before the awards are handed out?including some of the year?s frontrunners.



Bridge of Spies
Amazon; Google Play; iTunes

Ex Machina
Amazon; Google Play; iTunes

Fifty Shades of Grey
Amazon; Google Play; HBO Now; iTunes

Mad Max: Fury Road
Amazon; Google Play; HBO Now; iTunes

The Martian
Amazon; Google Play; iTunes

Sicario
Amazon; Google Play; iTunes

Spectre
Amazon; Google Play; iTunes

Spotlight
Amazon/Google Play/iTunes/YouTube

Steve Jobs
Amazon; Google Play

Straight Outta Compton
Amazon; Google Play; iTunes


Animated Films

Inside Out
Amazon; iTunes; YouTube

Shaun the Sheep
Amazon; Google Play; iTunes


Documentaries

Amy
Amazon; Google Play; iTunes; YouTube

Cartel Land
Amazon; Google Play; iTunes

The Look of Silence
Amazon; Google Play; iTunes

What Happened, Miss Simone?
Netflix

Winter on Fire: Ukraine?s Fight for Freedom
Netflix


http://www.wired.com/2016/02/streaming-oscar-nominees/?mbid=social_fb

Fifty Shades should NOT be nominated for any awards.  ANY.  AWARD.

Admittedly, I don't see many of these films until they come to DVD six months later. So I really have not much to say about the whole no minorities being nominated category.

Ok, make that HAD not much to say. I just was Trainwreck, and have to say that it's pretty clear my boy Lebron was robbed.

killsaly wrote:
Fifty Shades should NOT be nominated for any awards.  ANY.  AWARD.

Best Car?  It might not win but it should at least be in the running….

Well last weekend saw the NBA all star game played, with 23 out of 24 players being black guys. And Kendrick Lamar dominating the Grammys. Big weekend for black athletes and entertainers.

This weekend will be all about white (pseudo-)athletes and entertainers, as the Daytona 500 and the Oscars will be held. Any predictions?

Edit: Oh shit, I jumped the gun. Oscars are the following weekend.

Space wrote:
Well last weekend saw the NBA all star game played, with 23 out of 24 players being black guys. And Kendrick Lamar dominating the Grammys. Big weekend for black athletes and entertainers.

This weekend will be all about white (pseudo-)athletes and entertainers, as the Daytona 500 and the Oscars will be held. Any predictions?

Edit: Oh shit, I jumped the gun. Oscars are the following weekend.

Does anybody give a shit about NASCAR other than people in the south? I don't think so.. its such a horrible "sport"..turn the fuckin' steering wheel to the left, keep it there and go 500 laps??? Formula 1 is so much better.

NASCAR blows.

hutch wrote:

Space wrote:
Well last weekend saw the NBA all star game played, with 23 out of 24 players being black guys. And Kendrick Lamar dominating the Grammys. Big weekend for black athletes and entertainers.

This weekend will be all about white (pseudo-)athletes and entertainers, as the Daytona 500 and the Oscars will be held. Any predictions?

Edit: Oh shit, I jumped the gun. Oscars are the following weekend.

Does anybody give a shit about NASCAR other than people in the south? I don't think so.. its such a horrible "sport"..turn the fuckin' steering wheel to the left, keep it there and go 500 laps??? Formula 1 is so much better.

NASCAR blows.

I know of at least one forum member who is a fan, and he lives in California, not the South.

Actually, off the top of my head, there are NASCAR races held in New Hampshire, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Delaware and California. Pretty sure it went beyond being a regional "sport" years ago.

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Can we just jump to "car racing is for rednecks" and stop with the regional hatey hatiness?

jaded wrote:
Can we just jump to "car racing is for rednecks" and stop with the regional hatey hatiness?

It is sometimes perceived that most NASCAR fans are rednecks because of the sport's Southern heritage; this stereotype is largely inaccurate. According to NASCAR, about 10% of NASCAR fans are African-American, which is a slightly smaller percentage of African-Americans than in the general population. This compares to the NFL, where African-American NFL fans represent about 11.7 percent of the total NFL base. The percentage of African-American NASCAR fans has grown by 86% since 1999. There have also been some attempts by NASCAR to bring in more African American fans into the seats, and drivers into the races. About 40% of fans are female and their numbers are rising. About 75% have attended college and more than 25% own their own homes. About 36% of NASCAR fans make more than $50,000 a year. Finally, NASCAR fans are evenly distributed across the country. For example, 20% of NASCAR fans live in the Northeast U.S.; this is in line with the general population–20% of the U.S. population lives in the Northeast. While the largest base of NASCAR fans live in the Southern U.S., only 38% of the NASCAR fans live in the South. Again, this is in line with the general population–35% of the population lives in the South.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006021605290

None of those demographic categories are exclusive of rednecks. Interesting,  though.

Space wrote:  more than 25% own their own homes.

Does a double wide count?

About 36% of NASCAR fans make more than $50,000 a year.

so 64% don't make much

#nascarfansareesaypickins

I can't wrap my head around the appeal of the sport

well its not just regional dislike .. the sport is so moronic.. they race around for hours and in the end one car wins by 1/20th of a second.. what is the frickin point??

nascar sort of started- from what i gather- informally.. as people drivin the hills of carolina delivering moonshine or something.. that has some allure… but driving around an oval track 500 times to end up with such a tiny difference..