Maybe we should just impeach Trump

what a sham…all the evidence is going to come out…we just have to wait
Murkowski to vote no on witnesses,

I'm a little shocked that all these senators want to die on this hill of stupidity and crime
what if we… started treating our government… like the fascist, authoritarian state it is.. aha ha, just kidding.. unless..?
If anyone died on this hill it’s the democrats right?


Thank you to the progressive wing of the party who pushed as hard as they could for impeachment

They kept saying in impeachment it would be different


Same folks who argue Bernie or Warren can win Virginia


Delusional
News flash for democrats:


Continually losing sort of feeds itself…people prefer winning and winners


Kavanaugh, maybe, should have been enough of a lesson

Folks we may be right but we don’t have the votes!!
hutch wrote:
If anyone died on this hill it’s the democrats right?

you are not wrong

I just would like to believe when the evidence comes out
But we ultimately already know almost the entire story…so does testimony under oath and on camera matter?
To a certain degree I hoped that the American voter would be angry that a well documented trail of corruption occurred and the President clearly obstructed any effort to investigate something (that he's clearly guilty of)

but I also know that the American public has the memory of a goldfish and this is too complex for them to understand

He will just read the Tweet "congress acquits Trump" and people will not dig deeper

The focus should be on the winable votes in the battle ground states…
I still think the house should continue to open cases and investigations and just keep putting it out in sunlight
Impeachment didn’t fail cause of 50 senators but because most Americans didn’t give a rip….until you get that it’s pretty hopeless; after all elections are not about what YOU or I want but about what the American people want

I love this bullshit about hey I took ten seconds on Facebook to take a quiz and my views align with Bernie so Bernie or bust!

asymptomatic wrote:
hutch wrote:
If anyone died on this hill it’s the democrats right?

you are not wrong

I just would like to believe when the evidence comes out
But we ultimately already know almost the entire story…so does testimony under oath and on camera matter?
To a certain degree I hoped that the American voter would be angry that a well documented trail of corruption occurred and the President clearly obstructed any effort to investigate something (that he's clearly guilty of)

but I also know that the American public has the memory of a goldfish and this is too complex for them to understand

He will just read the Tweet "congress acquits Trump" and people will not dig deeper

The focus should be on the winable votes in the battle ground states…
I still think the house should continue to open cases and investigations and just keep putting it out in sunlight


And the “winnable” voters will you think go for Bernie and Warren or Biden and Bloomberg ?

Bernie people really need to wake the fuck up

There is no fucking way on earth Bernie wins Virginia….zero
This should not be about picking the Democrat candidate your views most align with but picking the Democrat candidate that can defeat Trump and save the Republic or what’s left of it.

Anything else is sheer idiocy at this point.

hutch wrote:
This should not be about picking the Democrat candidate your views most align with but picking the Democrat candidate that can defeat Trump and save the Republic or what’s left of it.

Anything else is sheer idiocy at this point.


And that person would be…
shemptiness wrote:
hutch wrote:
This should not be about picking the Democrat candidate your views most align with but picking the Democrat candidate that can defeat Trump and save the Republic or what’s left of it.

Anything else is sheer idiocy at this point.


And that person would be…


The white guy with the black guy name…

Sherrod Brown
Space wrote:
The white guy with the black guy name…

Sherrod Brown

I should know more about this guy
they had him on the Wilderness podcast and I'm a big fan now

he knows how to get the vote out too, wining in a fairly red state
he won reelection in a state that voted for Trump by an 8 point margin
Now it was 2018…but still
Biden and Bloomberg are barring some crazy events the only hope

"Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office."
- Marco Rubio


discuss, and/or throw up.
sweetcell wrote:
discuss, and/or throw up.

it so easy to overlook Rubio among the hogs in the GOP, but he's an under-rated top tier scumbag
sweetcell wrote:
"Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office."
- Marco Rubio


discuss, and/or throw up.


Coincidentally, I used the word "puke" when i sent this story to my wife earlier today.
The U.S. Senate has voted to block any witness testimony or new documents in Trump's impeachment trial.

The final vote: 49 YEA - 51 NAY.

asymptomatic wrote:
The U.S. Senate has voted to block any witness testimony or new documents in Trump's impeachment trial.

The final vote: 49 YEA - 51 NAY.




I don't understand why there aren't tens of thousands storming the Capital over this.
sweetcell wrote:
"Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office."
- Marco Rubio


discuss, and/or throw up.


This is the problem. Nobody has any idea what the hell "impeachment" actually means.

Marco Rubio is 100% correct:

"Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body levels charges against a government official."

Impeachment does not in itself remove the official definitively from office; it is similar to an indictment in criminal law, and thus it is essentially the statement of charges against the official.

This was doomed to fail from the start because even smart Americans (and Canadians) did not understand what they were getting into and could not effectively manage their expectations. 
Space wrote:
I don't understand why there aren't tens of thousands storming the Capital over this.


Post your photo of you at the steps of the Capitol in Mass protest.

Bonus points if you tell us what song is playing.