Maybe we should just impeach Trump

Nothing says class like an Ukrainian whore
hutch wrote:
Nothing says class like an Ukrainian whore

i mean, we're probably all thinking it, but saying it out loud isn't a good look hutch…
I was going for shock value…it worked?
Jim Jordan - you can tell I'm serious, because I had to take my jacket off
some pretty good lines in this write-up of the GOP's "protest" in the SCIC yesterday:

Trump told Republicans to fight. They took the brawl underground.

"What unfolded next was one of the most bizarre and theatrical days of the probe to date, full of partisan fury, genuine security violations, unclaimed pizza and several TV appearances likely to please the president."

would be funny if they were behind this
Break-in reported at Elizabeth Warren campaign office in New Hampshire https://cnb.cx/363uR65
ghouliani strikes again

i can't smack my forehead hard enough…


to be clear…this not a vote for Impeachment, but for the inquiry rules
sweetcell wrote:
ghouliani strikes again. 

i can't smack my forehead hard enough…

Rudy and his phone….I bet there is a goldmine of stuff on there too
Rudy Giulihttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rudy-giuliani-needed-apple-genius-help-unlock-his-iphone-after-n1074241ani needed Apple genius help to unlock his iPhone
this man is President Donald Trump’s cybersecurity adviser!

Michael Anaya, a former FBI supervisory special agent who led a cyber squad for four years, reacted with astonishment when told about Giuliani’s Apple store visit.
“That’s crazy,” he said. Anaya said someone in Giuliani’s position should never allow a person he didn’t know to access his device.
“You’re trusting that person in the store not to look at other information that is beyond what you’re there to get assistance for,” . "That’s a lot of trust you’re putting into an individual that you don’t know.”
ChickenShit-hatch wrote:
sweetcell wrote:
ghouliani strikes again. 

i can't smack my forehead hard enough…

Rudy and his phone….I bet there is a goldmine of stuff on there too
Rudy Giulihttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rudy-giuliani-needed-apple-genius-help-unlock-his-iphone-after-n1074241ani needed Apple genius help to unlock his iPhone

do0d, you murdered that link:

Rudy Giuliani needed Apple genius help to unlock his iPhone after named Trump cybersecurity adviser
sweetcell wrote:
do0d, you murdered that link

Can Confirm…with extreme prejudice
You guys are obsessed with Trump
Looks like Lev Parnas doesn't like that Trump said he didn't know who he is …and is talking to Congress!

@HoarseWisperer
Fun-fact: John Gotti’s henchman, Sammy “The Bull” Gravano, wasn’t going to turn on the Dapper Don until prosecutors played him a tape of Gotti trashing him.
Lev Parnas heard Trump throwing him under the bus on live TV.


wow in a odd coincidence…you know who got Sammy to turn…Robert Mueller!
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/how-scared-should-trump-be-of-mueller-ask-john-gotti-or-sammy-the-bull/amp
although…guess that didn't work out as we hoped, just a funny coincidence

can someone help me understand the following GOP talking point: "the whistleblower is partisan, we need to ID him/her so we can verify his bias, his political motivation - this person is clearly anti-trump".

WTF does it matter?  what if hillary and/or obama is/are the whistleblower(s)?  regardless of the 'blower's motivations, it doesn't negate the president's actions.  we now have multiple witnesses to his crimes.  leftie or righty, the blower was right.  but because they are a partisan, somehow the crimes don't count?

do adherents to this line of thinking believe that only a republican can out the president's deeds, because they are pure of heart? 

have i committed the sin of trying to find the logic here?  i mean, i get it, they are trying to out the whistleblower to punish them for opposing Their Guy, but c'mon… they're wearing no clothes.

this post brought to you by homebrewed cider?  weeeeee.
sweetcell wrote:
can someone help me understand the following GOP talking point: "the whistleblower is partisan, we need to ID him/her so we can verify his bias, his political motivation - this person is clearly anti-trump".

it doesn't matter, logic is not allowed to be used in these arguments

If a bank is being robbed and someone calls in the tip, the cops show up, catch the robbers, they admit the crime
Do we then try to find out what the motivation of the Tipster is?
The robbers are still guilty and caught red handed…its seems so simple, but yet a million requests for the WB identity

they are all willing to die on this hill of lies.  although apparently 2/3rds of trump supporters said "It doesn't matter what is said, they will always back trump."  There were A LOT of people who still supported Nixon right to the end and they didn't have Echo chamber news feeding them only one side of the story then


The other things they keep shouting that is mind numbinly stupid
1."This is a violation of the 6th amendment"
this is NOT a criminal case that is being tried in a state or federal court, so those rules don't apply.  It is an Inquiry, specifically for the House/legistative branch to have powers to investigate the Executive branch.  The rules are pretty clear and an important part of the constitution. 
2. "we need this to be out in the open"  So they Dems say OK lets do it out in the open and every single R votes against moving forward with the inquiry in the open and Lindsy was so bold to say "I'm not even going to read the transcript of the testimony"  !?! They have tried to make this about "its being done in secret" …umm you had 20~ republicans in these meetings, did you put comatose people in there so it didn't count that they were in the room.

They were trying so hard to make this about Process, so the Dems are walking on eggshells with the process, because they really can't fight the substance other than to say "you are on a witch hunt"  and not actually discuss the actions and why they might be considered criminal

This is not a fair fight and it sucks that their supporters don't care either
They just make shit up and keep saying it, hoping that the listeners don't understand the law
part of the answer to my own question came to me in the shower this morning: repubs are trying to confounds whistleblower and witness.  a witness' motivations are fair game for questioning, a blower's aren't.

and what the hell is up with Rand?!?
Rand Paul says he 'probably will' disclose whistleblower's name
Thanks to Rand Paul, Russian Media Are Naming the Alleged Whistleblower