Fantasy Baseball

I'd say if your not gonna do AVG., then do the OPS. I'm still not convinced about the Holds, I think the same players that would give you good holds will also help you out tremondously with ERA and WHIP. I know they don't pitch as many innings but alot of those Holds guys pitch 60-70 games a year.

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I'd say if your not gonna do AVG., then do the OPS. I'm still not convinced about the Holds, I think the same players that would give you good holds will also help you out tremondously with ERA and WHIP. I know they don't pitch as many innings but alot of those Holds guys pitch 60-70 games a year.

I agree, they still have some worth for ERA and WHIP, but holds give them the value they really should have … pitchers like brad lidge (early last season), tom gordon, osuka, etc, etc are nearly as important as closers to teams, and when you're competing for a whole diff. stat cat like holds, you fight over those players just as hard as you do closers

rob, are you in the league? what's your vote?

freddy: AVG
hoya: OBP
tenfifteen: OBP
pollard: indifferent

You don't have to talk up Brad Lidge, I know from last year just how dominant he was, he was in my division and definetely helped that guy come from behind at the end of the year and beat me. If I never hear his name again, it would be fine with me. I'm not in the league yet, I'll look into signing up.

My vote would be On Base Percentage, that way walks account for something.

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
You don't have to talk up Brad Lidge, I know from last year just how dominant he was, he was in my division and definetely helped that guy come from behind at the end of the year and beat me. If I never hear his name again, it would be fine with me. I'm not in the league yet, I'll look into signing up.

Hah, I made it a point to draft him in every league I was in last year, usually was able to get him in the last two rounds … he was a BEAST …

He was a thorn in my side!!!!!!!!!!

But everyone laughed at me last year when I drafted Adrian Beltre in the 13th round. People who had him the three years before that was like, "You can have him". He was just a backup for Lowell anyways, so I didnt care. But obviously by the middle of the season he was my DH. :D

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I'd say if your not gonna do AVG., then do the OPS. I'm still not convinced about the Holds, I think the same players that would give you good holds will also help you out tremondously with ERA and WHIP. I know they don't pitch as many innings but alot of those Holds guys pitch 60-70 games a year.

I agree, they still have some worth for ERA and WHIP, but holds give them the value they really should have … pitchers like brad lidge (early last season), tom gordon, osuka, etc, etc are nearly as important as closers to teams, and when you're competing for a whole diff. stat cat like holds, you fight over those players just as hard as you do closers

rob, are you in the league? what's your vote?

freddy: AVG
hoya: OBP
tenfifteen: OBP
pollard: indifferent

AVG.

The Evil Empire has just joined :D

ok, i joined. my team name is pretty obvious. all the leagues i'm in are the traditional 5x5, but i'm fine with obp instead. i'm still skeptical of holds, but it seems like the commish is really for it. guys like tom gordon, juan rincon and k-rod still had plenty of value in 5x5 (more than closers like smoltz, hoffman, etc. at least according to espn's player rater).

Originally posted by BookerT:
ok, i joined. my team name is pretty obvious.

Obvious cause you called yourself "Bums"? ;)

freddy: AVG
keithstg: AVG
RobGee: OBP
bookerT: OBP
hoya: OBP
tenfifteen: OBP
pollard: indifferent

keep em coming … we have 11 teams now, so we're missing 4 votes … room for 3 more teams …

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
well, i haven't played in a league with .AVG as a stat in about 5 years, but popular consensus rules …

how about:

AVG / HR / RBI / R / SB
and
W / SV / ERA / WHIP / K

i like that a lot! i just think OBP or SLG is a good indicator of a player's worth, but it's a bit like that quarterback rating in the NFL. part of the fun of fantasy bball is looking at your players on a daily basis in the box score.

Sorry, this might have been mentioned before. Is this gonna be a live draft in person, or over the computer…….I have a friend that wants to join. I know we're trying to make this forum people but I'm not sure we can get three more from here. Let me know.

i think yahoo has it set up so that you can have a live draft or you can pre-rank the players if you cannot be there. i did the live draft in football and it lasted 15 minutes at the most because it went so fast.

Yeah, football one's usually last about an hour at the most. Baseball though is much more difficult with all the positions, number of players and catagories.

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Sorry, this might have been mentioned before. Is this gonna be a live draft in person, or over the computer…….I have a friend that wants to join. I know we're trying to make this forum people but I'm not sure we can get three more from here. Let me know.

I know it will be tough to work around everyone's schedules, but I would almost insist on a live draft … I hate it when you have to rank players … Rob, let's give it a few more days before we open it up, sound good?

Freddy, I hear what you're saying about AVG, but you can read a box score and realize that 2 BBs and 1 hit in 5 plate appearances means 3/5, right? SLG is pretty easy to read with a box score too, if you have ichiro you get 1 total base for every fucking single he hits, but if you see your hitter with a bunch of doubles or HRs, you know he's doing better … and the "Box Score" you'll see every day on yahoo! is very good …

that said, i think we should just continue voting and see what happens…

I don't care between OBP and AVG - as long as both of them aren't there at once.
Please do a live draft! To me, its always been one of the most exciting parts of fantasy leagues. Everyone isn't going to make it - and if I'm one of those people, so be it. But I've always felt that the live draft brings alot of fun and it kind of personalizes your team.

Sounds good. I'll keep him on stand by. I think the best solution, although time consuming. Might be a chat room draft. I've seen it done for football. We'd have to start really early though and people would have to consistently check the board to see if its there turn. Its not quite a live draft, and it takes awhile, but its probably better than Yahoo picking for us.

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Sounds good. I'll keep him on stand by. I think the best solution, although time consuming. Might be a chat room draft. I've seen it done for football. We'd have to start really early though and people would have to consistently check the board to see if its there turn. Its not quite a live draft, and it takes awhile, but its probably better than Yahoo picking for us.

That's how the Yahoo live drafts work, you go into a java-script chatroom and pick your players while you talk shit to everyone … it takes maybe 1.5 hrs, maybe a little more …

Originally posted by freddyadu:
how about having something to play for? another experience i've had playing free leagues is that people drop out and leave their rosters "rotting".

i would put up to $20 into a pot and maybe we can buy gift certificates to see shows at the 9:30 club. i think that would keep people interested.

eh?

i agree … i'm more partial to putting $20 in a pot and having cash prizes for 1st 2nd and 3rd, but 930 gift certificates seem apropos here, maybe we could get an official sponsorship??

from bad experiences, I dont play in cash leagues, so thats cool if you do that, but just let me know if you are and I'll back my team out