Fantasy Baseball

i think we should have:
c
1b
2b
3b
ss
of x5
1b/3b
2b/ss
ut
8 or 9 pitcher slots

i wouldn't mind having up to a 2 person bench and up to 2 dl slots.

it's looking unlikely i'll be able to participate in the live draft on wednesday, but i've already pre-ranked 200 players and will do maybe 200 more and am confident i will emerge with the best team. so there.

I think:

c
1b
2b
3b
ss
Of X 4
Util
Util

Sp
Sp
Sp
Sp
Sp
Rp
Rp

With 7 bench backups on the bench.

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I think:

c
1b
2b
3b
ss
Of X 4
Util
Util

Sp
Sp
Sp
Sp
Sp
Rp
Rp

With 7 bench backups on the bench.

I'm a purist, so I would only have 3 OF and one DH, but I know I'm in the minority so this is fine, except, I would change the pitching to:

SP
SP
RP
RP
P
P
P

so that I have the choice of starting more closers or starters (not to mention my love of the middle releivers) and am not locked into 5 SPs, depending on whether or not I'm looking for saves or wins, etc.

Originally posted by BookerT:
i think we should have:
c
1b
2b
3b
ss
of x5
1b/3b
2b/ss
ut
8 or 9 pitcher slots

i wouldn't mind having up to a 2 person bench and up to 2 dl slots.

I like this…the later rounds are always the most fun. I think in yahoo fb there were DL slots or maybe have a DL slot but once the guy comes back from the DL you must decide between keeping the DL or the replacement.

I do actually like Vansmack's pitching idea. It makes it more strategical to figure out if your going for saves or wins one week to the next.

you guys are nutz if you don't think we should have a good amount of bench slots …. i like the format we have right now:

c
1b
2b
SS
3b
of
of
of
of
util (any pos.)
util (any pos.)

p
p
p
p
p
rp
rp

7 bench slots
2 DL slots

you're going to want plenty of bench slots to move SPs in and out, slumping hitters who you want to keep but don't want to start, etc … remember we set our rosters daily, not weekly

Originally posted by vansmack:

SP
SP
RP
RP
P
P
P

so that I have the choice of starting more closers or starters (not to mention my love of the middle releivers) and am not locked into 5 SPs, depending on whether or not I'm looking for saves or wins, etc.

smackie … issues with this include relief pitchers who count in yahoo as SP/RP, which means people cheat and put middle relievers in SP slots … when you have it like this it won't be too big of a problem, but last year i had a

SP
SP
SP
SP
SP
RP
RP
RP

league and it wreaked HAVOC … the good middle relievers who were designated SP/RP were suddenly worth tons … it really fucked things up …

not sure it would happen with your setup, but i'd rather just stick to 5 "P" and 2 "RP"

remember we set our rosters daily, not weekly

is there going to be a games limit per position? or are we just continuously cycling players in and out. i realize that most days everyone plays, but there are lots of mondays and thursdays where that's not the case.

Originally posted by BookerT:

remember we set our rosters daily, not weekly

is there going to be a games limit per position? or are we just continuously cycling players in and out. i realize that most days everyone plays, but there are lots of mondays and thursdays where that's not the case.

yes, 162 games per position, you can't just cycle in and out every day and get 180 games from 3B or something … all the league settings are here

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
not sure it would happen with your setup, but i'd rather just stick to 5 "P" and 2 "RP"

There's no difference between 5 P's and two SP's and 3 Ps for what I was trying to accomplish, which was giving some value to middle relievers. With 5 SP slots and 2 RP slots as was suggested, you would almost never use a middle releiver (who never starts) because their is no stat for him (unless we add holds).

In other leagues, we use two SP's, 2 RPs and 3 P's because people got in to the practice of burning up their innings before the trade deadline, then trade their quality SP's for hitters. Then they would use their last 150 innings with all closers/setup men. To quell this practice, we required that two of those spots be SP's so that they couldn't have 7 closers/set-up guys. But you're right, with the SP/RP of a lot of pitchers, it wasn't as effective as we had hoped.

And for the record, the burning up innings approach has never produced a winner in our league, but giving somebody a #1 or #2 starter for hitters at the deadline has aided more than a few teams to victory.

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
not sure it would happen with your setup, but i'd rather just stick to 5 "P" and 2 "RP"

There's no difference between 5 P's and two SP's and 3 Ps for what I was trying to accomplish, which was giving some value to middle relievers. With 5 SP slots and 2 RP slots as was suggested, you would almost never use a middle releiver (who never starts) because their is no stat for him (unless we add holds).

In other leagues, we use two SP's, 2 RPs and 3 P's because people got in to the practice of burning up their innings before the trade deadline, then trade their quality SP's for hitters. Then they would use their last 150 innings with all closers/setup men. To quell this practice, we required that two of those spots be SP's so that they couldn't have 7 closers/set-up guys. But you're right, with the SP/RP of a lot of pitchers, it wasn't as effective as we had hoped.

And for the record, the burning up innings approach has never produced a winner in our league, but giving somebody a #1 or #2 starter for hitters at the deadline has aided more than a few teams to victory.

ok, as i see it there isn't much of a difference between your suggestion:

SP
SP
P
P
P
RP
RP

and mine:

P
P
P
P
P
RP
RP

right? i'm kind of tired today, not completely following you…

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
not sure it would happen with your setup, but i'd rather just stick to 5 "P" and 2 "RP"

There's no difference between 5 P's and two SP's and 3 Ps for what I was trying to accomplish, which was giving some value to middle relievers. With 5 SP slots and 2 RP slots as was suggested, you would almost never use a middle releiver (who never starts) because their is no stat for him (unless we add holds).

In other leagues, we use two SP's, 2 RPs and 3 P's because people got in to the practice of burning up their innings before the trade deadline, then trade their quality SP's for hitters. Then they would use their last 150 innings with all closers/setup men. To quell this practice, we required that two of those spots be SP's so that they couldn't have 7 closers/set-up guys. But you're right, with the SP/RP of a lot of pitchers, it wasn't as effective as we had hoped.

And for the record, the burning up innings approach has never produced a winner in our league, but giving somebody a #1 or #2 starter for hitters at the deadline has aided more than a few teams to victory.

ok, as i see it there isn't much of a difference between your suggestion:

SP
SP
P
P
P
RP
RP

and mine:

P
P
P
P
P
RP
RP

right? i'm kind of tired today, not completely following you…

well, if i understand this all correctly, by simply making them P, you could have a staff full of middle relievers and closers. . .whereas with SP's, you have to have starters.

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
well, if i understand this all correctly, by simply making them P, you could have a staff full of middle relievers and closers. . .whereas with SP's, you have to have starters.

ok, that makes sense … thanks for clearing it up … i'm fine with switching to smackie's idea …

i spent all fucking day today working in excel on the fantasy points baseball stuff for my other league … i'm very close to the perfect system, i should have it down pat by tomorrow …

this is the email i sent out to my friends, anyone on here is more than welcome to join the league if you're interested ….

—————————————-
Hey everybody,

I'm running another Fantasy Baseball league this year, and I'm making some changes. Instead of doing a traditional roto-style league (get ranked 1-10 in every category) or a head-to-head league, I'm going to run a "Fantasy Points" league. Basically, this is similar to Fantasy Football, your player gets (or loses) points for everything that he does. Adie and I spent some time working out all the kinks in the system, and I think we came up with a pretty good one.

For all of you who are afraid of the new system and are a bit wary of signing up, don't be. I have an Excel spreadsheet that I can send along to you to show you how all the players are ranked (based on their stats from last year, of course) within the scoring system. It works out to be very close to how players would be ranked if you pick up a FB magazine or draft kit online. Only minor difference is that usually hitters are valued much more than pitchers, the system we've
come up with evens that out, so out of the top 19 players, 8 are pitchers. Also, holds are counted, so set-up men like Tom Gordon have more value.

I'll send you the spreadsheet if you're interested.

Only issue is that the draft will be next Thursday, March 10 at 7:15pm EST. I know, it's short notice and it's a long ways away from Opening Day, but it's the best I could do with Yahoo, the times filled up real quickly this year. We don't want to have a draft at like 1pm on a
Wednesday, and that's our only other option after this. It should work fine though.

Buy-in will be $25: 1st place gets 50%, 2nd gets 30%, 3rd gets 20%

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/register/joinprivateleague
League ID: 92473
Password: rfkrules

Here's the nitty-gritty details. Trust me, I've played around with it a lot, and it all works out. Email me with any questions or to get the spreadsheet.

Max Teams: 14
Scoring Type: Points Only
Player Universe: All baseball
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 0
Trade End Date: August 28, 2005
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports
Trade Review: Commissioner
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 162
Max Innings Pitched: 1250
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Sunday, Apr 3
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util, RP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL
Stat Categories / Modifiers:
R (5)
1B (5)
2B (10)
3B (15)
HR (20)
RBI (5)
SH (2)
SF (2)
SB (5)
CS (-3)
BB (3)
HBP (3)

W (40)
L (-10)
SV (80)
SVOP (-40)
HLD (40)
OUT (4)
H (-1)
ER (-5)
BB (-1)
HBP (-1)
K (2)
WP (-1)
BLK (-1)

Originally posted by freddyadu:
Shouldn't we do it closer to opening day? That way we will know about any position battles or rotation changes.

xxx URGENT xxx

many new draft days / times have recently opened up on yahoo, we could move the draft to the week of March 27 - April 2, almost all good times are available for this week. Opening Day is April 3.

We will have a better knowledge of injuries, position battles, etc. The only reason I had initially scheduled the draft for this early is because these dates were not available when i first set the draft time.

If i hear back from enough of you, i'll switch it to Tuesday March 29, at 8pm EST … mainly because Tuesdays are usually a good day, 8pm usually a good time

Let me know what you think.

that is so much better. so much better.

agreed. it also won't interfere as much with my ncaa bracket(s) planning. :)

thats fine

I'm flying to Maine for my fantasy draft from the 25th til the 27th so definetely can't do it on those nights. I'm going to a concert on April 1st. Otherwise, as of now, any other night is fine.

'fess up — you're going to see LA Guns at Jaxx.

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I'm going to a concert on April 1st.