2009-2010 NFL discussion thread

godsshoeshine wrote:
i thought it was the most watched regular season sunday opener ever, but impressive none the less


What difference does 10 Million veiwers really make?

1995 Kansas City Chiefs-Dallas Cowboys game that averaged 35.7 million viewers
2009 Washington Redskins-New York Giants game that averaged 25.1 million viewers
i was going to say there usually are a couple of 4:45 games a year that do 20+ ratings, usually do to a compelling match up and/or a favorable map. the skins/giants map was one of the best i've seen ever
http://the506.com/nflmaps/2009/01-FOX-L.html
They had a ton of coverage, yes.  That's the ratings benefit of a Thursday night game and 2 Monday night games.  The Charger game would certainly have been a Sunday late game, and perhaps one of the NE/Pitt games.

I was having a conversation with my brother-in-law this morning about having a team in LA and I told him that it would kill TV for him.  To illustrate:

WEEK 2 IN LA

Early games: NE @ NYJ and  NO @ PHI

Late Game: BAL @ SD

Compared to….

WEEK 2 IN SF

Early Game: OAK @ KC

Late Game: SEA @ SF

There's no comparison, really.  The NFL Package is a must in the Bay Area.
sweetcell wrote:
hutch wrote:
I don't get the game myself…

that because no argentinians are in the NFL.


Ha ha…nice one, but even I will admit to missing those nut job Gramatica boys.  Someone will sign one of them as a replacement for a week or two just for the unintentional comedy value…
vansmack wrote:
They had a ton of coverage, yes.  That's the ratings benefit of a Thursday night game and 2 Monday night games.  The Charger game would certainly have been a Sunday late game, and perhaps one of the NE/Pitt games.

I was having a conversation with my brother-in-law this morning about having a team in LA and I told him that it would kill TV for him.  To illustrate:

WEEK 2 IN LA

Early games: NE @ NYJ and  NO @ PHI

Late Game: BAL @ SD

Compared to….

WEEK 2 IN SF

Early Game: OAK @ KC

Late Game: SEA @ SF

There's no comparison, really.  The NFL Package is a must in the Bay Area.


or at least knowing someone who has the package.

there was a writer, i think on page 2, defending the nfl blackout rule and used the same rationale as this. . .instead of being forced to watch 2 potentially crappy local teams, you get the national games, which are, presumably, better than your local teams. 
the ticket is vital unless you root for the team in your town. i couldnt take going back to bars at this point
Venerable wrote:
there was a writer, i think on page 2, defending the nfl blackout rule and used the same rationale as this. . .instead of being forced to watch 2 potentially crappy local teams, you get the national games, which are, presumably, better than your local teams. 


Ha ha, that's pretty funny.  I don't mind the blackout rule as I've never been a fan of a local team and it's very close in terms of which would happen first: (1) me moving to Pittsburgh and (2) Heinz field not selling out a game I would want to watch.  I wouldn't hold my breath for either.

I could see why other small market team fans would be upset though.

Anyhow, I think it's only NY and SF that have the two teams in the same media market and thus get screwed.  I know there are complaints about the secondary media market, but I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as those two cities.
pittsburgh has tons of lawyers and hospitals, team smackie would fit right in

my dad was telling me about in the early 70's they didnt show games locally at all, so people would drive to erie to watch the steelers in a motel. like the whole motel would yell all during the game. hard to believe these days

it is pretty funny to watch my cousins act as ticket brokers on fall friday and saturday nights, though
chaz wrote:
Anybody hear about the TV ratings for the first week of NFL games?  The sunday game between the Giants and Redskins was the most watched regular season game EVER.

I'm actually reeling over this news.  I'd kind of thought that the NFL had reach maximum market saturation….so personally this comes as not really good news to me.  This will stoke the fires even more to penetrate other markets, with horrible ideas like moving some regular season games to London etc.  Shit they are talking about having a fucking team in Europe in the next 10 years.  Ughh.



I went to watch the game at Hard Times in Fairfax, and it was damn slow. It was more packed last season, and a lot more packed for just regular season Caps games. I thought it would be pakced with another QB and another coach on the chopping block, plus a divisional game? Season opener? I was surprised.
godsshoeshine wrote:
pittsburgh has tons of lawyers and hospitals, team smackie would fit right in


Ah, but it's missing one big integral part of my life - the Ocean.  I did the river thing when I lived in Budapest (and to an extent DC though the shore was within driving distance) and I'll never do it again.  Smackie needs big blue to survive.
godsshoeshine wrote:my dad was telling me about in the early 70's they didnt show games locally at all, so people would drive to erie to watch the steelers in a motel. like the whole motel would yell all during the game. hard to believe these days


I've heard similar stories about Connecticut hotels for NY football fans.  Incredible how hard it was to be a fan back then…
godsshoeshine wrote:
pittsburgh has tons of lawyers and hospitals, team smackie would fit right in


Since I won't really be talking about the game in Chicago for a couple more days, I thought I would point out that even this ringing endorsement of Pittsburgh from my favorite rag won't be changing my stance on this.
worse than the lack of ocean would be the weather in my opinion. this past weekend was the first time in 7 years i went to pennsylvania and it didnt rain at all
If I were a fan of either of these teams, I would think this is a blessing…

Lions, Raiders games blacked out locally this weekend

Guess that means I don't get to watch Brandon Marshall single handedly destroy my fantasy team this weekend.
vansmack wrote:
If I were a fan of either of these teams, I would think this is a blessing…

Lions, Raiders games blacked out locally this weekend

Guess that means I don't get to watch Brandon Marshall single handedly destroy my fantasy team this weekend.


Simmons. . . .

LIONS (+6.5) over Redskins
It's time for the Miller Lite Call of The Week, where I either praise a call that I loved or defend a call thought to be previously indefensible. This week, we're tackling the NFL's *unfortunate* blackout of the Redskins-Lions game, which could prevent Detroit fans from seeing their team's first win in years. And yes, it's literally been years. Plural.

Why put asterisks around the word *unfortunate*? Thanks to the blackout, Detroit fans now get treated to a much better game: Niners-Vikings. For gamblers, fantasy addicts and general football addicts in the Detroit area, what would you rather watch: your decrepitly hopeless team gunning for its 20th straight defeat, or two playoff teams battling with about 10 fantasy guys involved? I'm voting for Niners-Vikes! By refusing to turn out for the Lions, Detroit fans shrewdly improved their own viewing options and inspired downtrodden NFL cities across America to do the same. Now that's a great call of the week.

i think this is about the same thing we've all brought up about the positives of the blackout rule.
anyone know where one can watch NFL games online?  i know the sunday night game is streamed live on cbs.com, any others? 

i'm stuck out in way rural VT today, with little hope of getting a network feed.  i've already moved sheep and tossed hay bales this morning, so i'm all good on outdoor activities…
http://www.atdhe.net/
sweetcell wrote:
anyone know where one can watch NFL games online?  i know the sunday night game is streamed live on cbs.com, any others? 



Directv subscribers who have a Sunday Ticket subscription can watch the games online at directv.com.