2009-2010 NFL discussion thread

Mobius wrote:
It f*cking sucks that team owners aren't accountable.  The Redskins make me sad

As a small boy, Daniel Snyder loved the Redskins. As a small man, he bought them.
Quickly the dark cloud of his stewardship descended over Redskin nation……

Focused only on increasing his own power, he has rendered this historic franchise and its loyal fans powerless.
He is the taker of life, wealth and happiness.  He yields only darkness and doom??

He is the man we know now as??

DARTH SNYDER

www.darthsnyder.com

Aint it hard when you discover that
He really wasnt where its at
After he took from you everything he could steal.

How does it feel

Redskins Hold Press Conference To Announce They Are Still Sort Of A Football Team



WASHINGTON?Washington Redskins head coach Jim Zorn held a press conference Sunday to reassure fans that, despite an inability to effectively execute their offense, defense, or special teams, the Redskins were still somewhat comparable to a real football team. "It's been a tough season so far, and even though we are 2-4, we still have players, uniforms, Motorola headsets?all the components that technically constitute an NFL team, sort of," Zorn said while grimacing and making a "so-so" gesture with his hand. "Sure, I was stripped of play-calling responsibilities by team management, and I really don't have any clue who will play quarterback for us this Sunday, but I swear to you, in a weird, very convoluted way, we are in the NFL." Placing his hand over the microphone, Zorn then spoke briefly with an unidentified man near the stage, and announced that, for what it's worth, the organization owns the Internet domain name washingtonredskins.com through 2010.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/redskins_hold_press

I actually thought the news on the ticker during Sunday night football was an onion headline:

"Redskins Zorn Stripped of Play-Calling Duties"

And I thought to myself (or actually, venerable can tell you that I thought it out loud), "He's the fucking head coach - who has the power to take that away from him who wouldn't rather just take away his job all together?"

Turns out there's another layer between the Head coach and the owner who isn't only in charge of player personnel (like a GM).  Front office cheif Vinny Cerrato took those duties away and didn't give them to the Offensive Coordinator, instead hiring an outsider and calling him "offensive consultant."

Seriously, how many layers can they possibly have and wonder why things are still going so badly?

My favorite onion sports headline ever was "Randy Moss Complains he's Getting the Ball too Much.

Every day I go the post online and expect to see the headling that Zorn's been canned. 

vansmack wrote:
"offensive consultant."

Translation = "Future Interim Head Coach"

i wish there were two sherms, like the two bobs in office space

ggw wrote:

vansmack wrote:
"offensive consultant."

Translation = "Future Interim Head Coach"

He won't be head coach if there is an interim. 

I was reading another article about the controversy surrounding the Redskins name today, this one centered around the skins' unofficial mascot Chief Zee.

And it occurred to me…At this point it would not surprise me is Danny went along with the pressure at some point and changed the name.  First of all, as with any logo/uniform change there is the obvious financial windfall assoaciated with schwag sales with the new logo/whatever.  Danny likes the $$ so it would be a no brainer on this front. 

Changing the name would draw the ire of many long time fans to be sure.  But let's face it…the majority would would eventually get over it and step in line like everyone else.

The other win win for Danny would be public opinion.  Not only is he hated in DC, but he's seen (accurately) by most people around the country as a spoiled buffoon that knows nothing about football who is driving the team into the ground.  What better PR move to repair the public perception than to ditch a trademark that is seen not only as offensive to native americans and many others but also outdated and out of touch with the times?  It's a move that would also provide a huge smoke screen to the larger issue, that being a floundering disfunctional club that is losing its grip on its fanbase.

Thoughts?????

DC football is way too steeped in tradition.  in fact, at the moment the ONLY thing the team really has going for it is tradition (aka loyalty).  zero chance, IMO, that they change the name and try to re-build the brand under a new banner. 

(but if they do, i hear that the name  "the bullets" is available…)

Mobius wrote:
i wish there were two sherms, like the two bobs in office space

I wrote this without realizing there actually ARE two Sherms . . . heretofore unknown offensive coordinator Sherman Smith! 

Vinny: So, Jim, what's happening? Aahh, now, are you going to go ahead and have that Gameplan for us this afternoon?
Zorn: No.
Vinny: Ah. Yeah. So I guess we should probably go ahead and have a little talk. Hmm?
Zorn: Not right now, Vinny, I'm kinda busy. In fact, look, I'm gonna have to ask you to just go ahead and come back another time. I got a meeting with the Sherms in a couple of minutes.
Vinny: I wasn't aware of a meeting with them.
Zorn: Yeah, they called me at home.   

Apparently the two Sherms is causing confusion in the headsets on gameday.

What do you think, Sherm?
Who, me?

I predict a massive clusterfuck getting the plays in on time this sunday.  The skins can't manage a game to save their lives as it is.  Now the plays will go from Sherm up in the booth, down to Zorn on the sidelines and then into the qb. 

As a skins fan I'm just waiting for double-secret rock bottom.  Only then can the healing begin.  Bring on the carnage.

Mobius wrote:
I wrote this without realizing there actually ARE two Sherms . . . heretofore unknown offensive coordinator Sherman Smith! 

Haha, I laughed because I thought you knew they had two guys in charge of the offense named Sherm….It's gonna be awesome.  NFL films (or at least Coors Light) need to do something with this….

all i have to say is sports talk radio in the dc area has been amazing lately

All I have to say to the skins going into monday night is stay medium boys, stay medium.

chaz wrote:
All I have to say to the skins going into monday night is stay medium boys, stay medium.

 
not sure what "stay medium" means, but i'm pretty sure they didn't do it last night.  didn't do much of anything, really.  awful, awful team.

Dan Snyder has so many similarities to Jay Gatz.  He's like the Shitty Gatsby.  This young shadowy character from unexpectedly humble beginnings with business savvy who made good gonneggions and grew sketchy businesses (telemarketing?) and created an expansive facade which ultimately masked a kind of pathetic character at the core.  Unfortunately its the Redskins floating in the pool.

The economic rationale for Belichick's decision to go for it on 4th down against the Colts:

http://elsa.berkeley.edu/users/dromer/papers/nber9024.pdf

I agreed with Belichick

if Peyton started in his end zone with 2 minutes left and the game on the line, he would've scored

anything to try & keep the ball out of his hands was worth the attempt, because the alternative was lose anyway

ggw wrote:
The economic rationale for Belichick's decision to go for it on 4th down against the Colts:

http://elsa.berkeley.edu/users/dromer/papers/nber9024.pdf

That paper talks mostly about going for it in your opponents zone - it doesn't really create a rationale for going for it in your own zone.  Also, it creates no varibale for time remaining, nor is there a varibale for time remaining vs lead to protect - two huge factors in this decision particular decision.