The "Do we need a Russia/Ukraine/WWIII thread" thread

I feel like we are not doing enough… I get they have nukes but am frustrated…

Starsky wrote:
I feel like we are not doing enough… I get they have nukes but am frustrated…

Would you volunteer to fight if they were asking for volunteers?

Would that make the difference Space?


I think if I could give up my life to save an entire country I would… just like I like to think I would have done the same to spare millions of Jews from dying at Hitler’s hands… not sure my volunteering would accomplish much.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”

if everyone said their contribution was meaningless, nothing would be done.  an army is made up of individuals who signed up.

the temptation to hop a plane to poland has been eating away at me.  my dedication to non-violence, and my kids, are what are keeping me grounded.

Well we do have an army of people who signed up and are paid from taxpayer dollars.

To quote a great Canadian poet “I never said that I was brave!”

Honestly the best thing Americans can do is encourage Biden to get as involved as possible without committing American ground troops. Probably could use a PAC.

just heard a whisper from a trusted source :Russia just bombed a nuclear power plant!

TheGhostofKyivHatch wrote:
just heard a whisper from a trusted source :Russia just bombed a nuclear power plant!

CNN?

RIP

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/03/europe/zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant-fire-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html

Well somewhat good news
https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/03/04/europes-largest-nuclear-plant-shuts-down-after-russian-attack

GrizzlyBearConflictManager wrote:

The starr date for WW 1 is June 28, not July 28.

forget about boycotts from Shell, McDonalds, and Pepsi… this is the one that is going to hit home for the populace and may well start a popular uprising:

Adidas Closes Russia Stores Amid Ukraine War

I wonder if there is any way Russia can stop and save face…they ain’t going to stop if it makes them look like losers

Because this could go on as long as Russia wants it and if history teaches us anything it’s that Russia is perfectly willing to sacrifice to the max. Sanctions will hurt them but they have historically been a very steely bunch

It’s unbelievable to have this full on war in Europe.

I suppose if Putin died there might be an opening but I would not bet on that for 15 years…and if he dies whoever replaces him is more likely to continue than not (in order to consolidate power, not appear weak, etc)

Well with Bumble shutting down over there, there will less uprisings over there

Starsky wrote:
I wonder if there is any way Russia can stop and save face…they ain’t going to stop if it makes them look like losers

i'm sure this is what you meant, but allow me to rewrite that first line:

I wonder if there is any way Putin can stop and save face…he ain’t going to stop if it makes him look like loser

and you are absolutely correct, at this point Putin has pushed all his chips to the center of the table - he's all in.  he cannot retreat.  like all  strongmen, he is dependent on projecting strength.  to admit that he effed up and miscalculated would open a lot of doors to dissent… and he won't do anything that may threaten his grip on power.

this is what makes this whole situation so scary: there is no off-ramp.  as long as putin is in power, we're riding this rollercoasters until the bitter end.

Dude, can't believe this guy is an elected representative for the US government

https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1501964751362011136

@CawthornforNC
“Zelenskyy is a thug. Remember that the Ukrainian government is incredibly corrupt and is incredibly evil and has been pushing woke ideologies.”