The "Do we need a Russia/Ukraine/WWIII thread" thread

Talk about war atrocities we don’t give a fuck about

500,000 people have died in the Tigray War in Ethiopia in the last 16 months.

"The estimate includes 50,000 to 100,000 victims of direct killings, 150,000 to 200,000 starvation deaths, and more than 100,000 additional deaths caused by a lack of health care"

Sobering

^that Kyiv Calling song is great, I think Joe would be proud that his song was used
although not with out some controversy…the band previously supported Bandera a known nazi sympathizer
Billy bragg was for, then against, now he's middling on it after the band kind of apologized

“This is deeply troubling. Stepan Bandera was a far-right Ukrainian politician who collaborated with the Nazis during the occupation of Ukraine and whose followers were complicit in the Holocaust,” commented Bragg.

https://medium.com/@tomstrummer99/kyiv-calling-how-a-clash-song-was-remade-as-a-pro-war-anthem-by-a-band-with-fascist-links-26f9d6854c00
but a lot of hard core clash fans feel that Joe wouldn't approve due to their neo-facist past…

I dunno, my biggest gripe is the bass sucks in their version…that could use some improvment


A senior NATO military officer says NATO estimates that Russia has suffered between 30,000 & 40,000 battlefield casualties in Ukraine through the first month of the war, including between 7,000 and 15,000 killed. It is NATO’s first public estimate of Russian casualties (AP).

those losses are just mind-boggling. 

been reading about the issues the ruskies are having with the management of all the bodies.  they're stockpiling a lot of them, "temporarily", in Belorussia - to hide them from the Russian public.  the belorussians are running out of refrigeration space to warehouse them.  other bodies are just ignored and left on the battlefield…  The bodies of Russian soldiers are piling up in Ukraine, as Kremlin conceals true toll of war

i read that this war is costing the ruskies 20 billion dollars a day.  with their economy collapsing, they won't be able to keep it up much longer.

other random quotes i've come across:
- the ruble should be pronounced and written "rubble" ;D
- Ukrainian armed forces: "In January Putin had the second best army in the world. In March, he has the second best army in Ukraine."
- "at this rate, NATO should consider joining Ukraine"

sweetcell wrote:
- Ukrainian armed forces: "In January Putin had the second best army in the world. In March, he has the second best army in Ukraine."

damn…

was on a rabbit hole about Ukraine on twitter and found this interesting tweet about how some lone Russian surrendered with his tank to the ukraine

but that got the response that 'is it possible to drive a tank solo'
to that immediately someone posted a Ukraine tiktoc of a child basically finding an abandoned Russian tank and showing us how to drive it it!>!


this is a weird timeline

It’s war. You can’t really believe anything. Disinformation is a part of war. It’s not just the Russians lying.

Starsky wrote:
It’s war. You can’t really believe anything. Disinformation is a part of war. It’s not just the Russians lying.

valid point

amazing video of peaceful civilian resistance in occupied Kherson: https://www.facebook.com/100013415235189/videos/429723145579258/

chants include "putin is a dickhead/fuckhead" (lol), "kerson is ukraine", "russian war boat, go fuck yourself", the ukrainian national anthem, "zelensky", and some chant at the end saying "zelensky is (something), but putin is (something else)" which i couldn't understand… but you can rest assured that they aren't flattering the russian dictator ;D

amazing that they're walking right up to the russian soldiers and yelling "putin is a fuckhead" to their faces.  kherson is a very russian-speaking town.  i'm sure russian planners assumed that khersonites would welcome the invasion… instead, they get thousands of folks marching in the streets telling them to go the fuck home.

i could do without the cinematic music tho.

sweetcell wrote:
those losses are just mind-boggling. 

been reading about the issues the ruskies are having with the management of all the bodies.  they're stockpiling a lot of them, "temporarily", in Belorussia - to hide them from the Russian public.

Clearview AI’s Dystopian Face Rec Tech Now Being Used to Identify Dead Russian Troops

Ukraine's vice prime minister said the military uses Clearview AI to identify the soldier and then contact their family via social media

found another one… didn't even flinch when shots were fired: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=687575739261369

amazing.  although they should have practiced singing the national anthem beforehand, had a little issue with coordination :D

I had to do a double take when I first heard Biden’s words…

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/27/politics/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-war/index.html

You really need to watch what you say…and if you say it you better be willing and able to back it up

This kind of thing makes even me doubt he is up for a second term

Biden has done a lot of the right things vis a vis Ukraine- Russia but you can’t have slip ups

ukrainian helicopters may or may not have successfully de-nazified a fuel depot in russian territory, in what is possibly being called a "special defueling operation."

Sonic Youth Release 1989 Kyiv Live Recording To Benefit Ukraine
Proceeds will benefit World Central Kitchen

‘Don’t Fuck With Ukraine’: How Ukrainian Pop Star Max Barskih Joined the Army and Wrote a New Anthem

the track: MAX BARSKIH - Don't F@ck With Ukraine [Прем'єра кліпу]

kickin'

in other pro-ukrainian music news:

story: Ed Sheeran teams up with Ukrainian band Antytila for reworked ‘2Step’
video: Ed Sheeran – 2step ft Antytila [Official Video]


Les Claypool and Gogol Bordello’s Eugene Hütz Lead All-Star Tribute “Zelensky: The Man with the Iron Balls”: Stream
An irreverent charity single for Ukraine also featuring Stewart Copeland, Sean Lennon, and Billy Strings

opinion wrote:

Following a personal invitation from Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelensky, U2’s Bono and the Edge visited Kyiv Sunday to perform an acoustic concert in one of the city’s subway stations-turned-bomb shelters

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/u2-bono-the-edge-acoustic-set-kyiv-bomb-shelter-1350428/

These folks have suffered enough. Jesus.

Julian, wrote:

opinion wrote:

Following a personal invitation from Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelensky, U2’s Bono and the Edge visited Kyiv Sunday to perform an acoustic concert in one of the city’s subway stations-turned-bomb shelters

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/u2-bono-the-edge-acoustic-set-kyiv-bomb-shelter-1350428/

These folks have suffered enough. Jesus.

saw this and was like…I've seen this before