kosmo
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 01, 2023 at 04:25 PM UTC
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so much winning
Federal appeals court unanimously rules Trump has no presidential immunity from lawsuits by Capitol police et al over his incitement of the Jan 6 rioters to riot.
Chef’s kiss: 1 of the 3 judges was his Deputy White House Counsel until Trump made him a judge.
stolen, I say stolen from kurt andersen
Space Freely
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 03, 2023 at 07:10 PM UTC
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Hutch
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 03, 2023 at 07:55 PM UTC
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So tired of these arguments…
If Democrats spent 1/100th of the energy they spend fearmongering -whether true or not- talking about what they aim to do to make Americans’ lives better…maybe they could win but if all you do is offer doomsday scenarios if Trump wins….well Trump will win!
Have we learned nothing from 2016 and all kinds of elections elsewhere? I mean Milei won in Argentina after the same fearmongering about how he is going to be a dictator…a guy with virtually zero experience and kind of crazy acting won 56-44! People want real solutions to problems not a bunch of “OMG if Trump wins it’s the end of the world!!” The more people say that the more turned off people get towards Biden.
Nobody except inside the beltway people and political junkies cares about democratic institutions….most people want to pay their bills and feel good about how things are going to go….
Mobius
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 04, 2023 at 02:33 AM UTC
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Author is neocon, not a democrat
Hutch
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 04, 2023 at 03:55 AM UTC
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Regardless it’s all I hear from Democrats….. scaremongering
The D campaign is Trump MAGA extremism and abortion abortion abortion. It worked in Virginia so they are going to double down. I think it’s a mistake to only tell people what to vote against. I think it’s a loser.
sweetcell
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 04, 2023 at 05:28 AM UTC
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Space Freely
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 04, 2023 at 12:58 PM UTC
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Hutch wrote:
Regardless it’s all I hear from Democrats….. scaremongering
The D campaign is Trump MAGA extremism and abortion abortion abortion. It worked in Virginia so they are going to double down. I think it’s a mistake to only tell people what to vote against. I think it’s a loser.
Well I think immigration is a losing issue for the Dems, trans stuff is a losing issue, and the economy is whatever people are feeling personally. What else do they have to run on?
Hutch
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 04, 2023 at 01:20 PM UTC
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They should run on a platform of very specific ways of bringing back the American Dream. Too many Americans are stuck living paycheck to paycheck. They need to tack left (on the economy and education). Just saying “the other guys are crazy” isn’t going to cut it. Not only that, it leaves you poorly positioned to actually get anything done if you win. Democrats need new ideas!
Space Freely
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 04, 2023 at 01:35 PM UTC
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Hutch wrote:
They should run on a platform of very specific ways of bringing back the American Dream. Too many Americans are stuck living paycheck to paycheck. They need to tack left (on the economy and education). Just saying “the other guys are crazy” isn’t going to cut it. Not only that, it leaves you poorly positioned to actually get anything done if you win. Democrats need new ideas!
I agree with you, but do most people have the bandwidth to pay attention anymore? I'm on social media enough to see that the country has been reduced to goobers hating on trans people and illegals and Dems hating on Trump. And that's politics to them.
sweetcell
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 04, 2023 at 05:06 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
What else do they have to run on?
abortion
Space Freely
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 04, 2023 at 05:20 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
Space wrote:
What else do they have to run on?
abortion
I agree but I thought Hutch's point was that all they are running on is MAGA extremism and abortion, so they needed to find talking points *other than* these two issues.
nkotb
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 04, 2023 at 05:32 PM UTC
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And maybe run on what you'd do to protect the abortion rights and not what bad things the other guys will do.
sweetcell
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 05, 2023 at 09:13 PM UTC
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how he was able to keep this up this long highlights the repubs complete lack of discipline:
Sen. Tommy Tuberville drops his hold on hundreds of military nomineesthe GOP isn't a political party, it's a loose coalition of media attention whores and low-grade authoritarians.
Space Freely
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 06, 2023 at 03:27 AM UTC
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https://x.com/Acyn/status/1732069208404730041?t=BsfCHlOkB5YfWcZQ2V13_Q&s=09We have to blur out the protestors because we don't want to DOJ charging them?
Space Freely
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 06, 2023 at 05:03 PM UTC
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Hutch
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 06, 2023 at 06:59 PM UTC
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Would Archie Bunker be a Trump supporter?
Sidehatch
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 06, 2023 at 07:08 PM UTC
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Hutch wrote:
Would Archie Bunker be a Trump supporter?
probably
although carroll o'connor was a bleadin' liberal
beetsnotbeats
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 06, 2023 at 07:09 PM UTC
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Hutch wrote:
Would Archie Bunker be a Trump supporter?
He'd be in the grifter's regalia 24/7.
kosmo
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 06, 2023 at 09:11 PM UTC
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Six more “alternate” electors charged in Nevada for being rubes
A bunch in Wisconsin settled a lawsuit over their actions and admitted yes indeed Biden won the state
Arizona up next!
Space Freely
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Re: post-2022 - deplorables in disarray thread
December 06, 2023 at 09:44 PM UTC
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Hutch wrote:
Would Archie Bunker be a Trump supporter?
My kid said he would have voted for him in 2016, but would have sat out 2020.