iphone

So, free bumpers or recall?

I say apology and software fix, maybe free bumpers, but no recall. Maybe extended return period if software doesn't work.

New iPhones will have a coating over that revolutionary super-special antenna slit they touted at its release party.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/07/16/apple.iphone4/index.html

I love the PR spin.  Despite at&t upgrading their network, the iPhone4 only loses about "one more call than the 3GS did at it's release."

Seems really good right?

Not when you consider that at&t probably loses between and 1 and 5 calls per 100 at this point.

So let's say they lose 1 - that means the iPhone 4 loses twice as many calls per 100.

Let's assume 5.  1 more call dropped is a 20% increase.

The masters of the PR spin…except for the thinking people in the world.

vansmack wrote:
I love the PR spin.  Despite at&t upgrading their network, the iPhone4 only loses about "one more call than the 3GS did at it's release."

Seems really good right?

Not when you consider that at&t probably loses between and 1 and 5 calls per 100 at this point.

So let's say they lose 1 - that means the iPhone 4 loses twice as many calls per 100.

Let's assume 5.  1 more call dropped is a 20% increase.

The masters of the PR spin…except for the thinking people in the world.

And you're showing statistic spin as well. If a city has two murders one year and three the next, that's a (oh the horrror!) 50% increase in the murder rate. Time to vote the mayor out of office, right?

Differences in small numbers can be amplified positively or negatively by simple application of percentages. Thinking people see through that.

beetsnotbeats wrote:
And you're showing statistic spin as well. If a city has two murders one year and three the next, that's a (oh the horrror!) 50% increase in the murder rate. Time to vote the mayor out of office, right?

Differences in small numbers can be amplified positively or negatively by simple application of percentages. Thinking people see through that.

The difference, of course, being that the Mayor would have to post the ACTUAL numbers.  He couldn't hide behind the police department not wanting those numbers to be made public - he doesn't have a choice.

Here, Apple said at&t won't release those numbers because they didn't want that information to fall to their competition.  Thus, I'm pointing out that what they've made to sound like a minor problem is very likely larger than they are making it out to be given they limited the  scope to 1 in 100 and even at the average rate of dropped calls for most US carriers, it could be fairly significant.

That press conference was classic Apple.   A small tactical retreat, but clouds of spin, and implicit blame on the customers, AT&T … anybody but themselves.   That is the problem with PR hype – eventually you start to believe it yourself.   The new Iphone 4 was described repeatedly by Jobs at the launch as "magic," and apparently that's what they were counting on.

And why can't Jobs find something else in his wardrobe besides a black turtleneck and jeans?

Come to think of it, why isn't anyone else at Apple capable of speaking for the company?

I'm satisfied enough with my old Iphone, but the blame-the-customer 'tude of Apple, combined with its cult-like fans, is enough to make me want to switch when it's time for a new phone.

vansmack wrote:
The difference, of course, being that the Mayor would have to post the ACTUAL numbers.  He couldn't hide behind the police department not wanting those numbers to be made public - he doesn't have a choice.

You've never lived in a major city if you really believe the above statement. Mayor McCheese may possess the ethics to be honest and post the ACTUAL numbers of hamburglaries, but real world politics are much different.

This thread should be renamed 'Apple screwed up a product. Let's beat it like a piñata.'

Jailbreaking iPhone apps is now legal
IPhone users can now legally hack their phones to download applications that aren't in Apple's App Store.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/26/technology/iphone_jailbreaking/index.html

and smackie sez…

in other news: Most iPhone users love AT&T, http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/23/technology/iphone_4_att/index.htm

sweetcell wrote:
Jailbreaking iPhone apps is now legal
IPhone users can now legally hack their phones to download applications that aren't in Apple's App Store.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/26/technology/iphone_jailbreaking/index.html

and smackie sez…

in other news: Most iPhone users love AT&T, http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/23/technology/iphone_4_att/index.htm

Be careful - legal does not mean that it does not violate the terms of your agreement with Apple or at&t, it simply means you can't be prosecuted for jailbreaking (and they're protecting the hackers mostly, not those of you that do it).  If you brick your phone while jailbreaking, it's your problem not the manufacturer or carrier.

And as far as the CNN story - fanboi's can simply not have a negative opinion of anything they use or own.  Give them an option and we'll see how much those results change…

vansmack wrote:
Jag, you bring up two good points.

The first is that the Xperia X1 (Sony Ericsson's top phone) makes me jizz in my pants a little.  It's a beautiful phone that American carriers have avoided like the plague.  It's all over Europe and Asia and causes me a tremendous amount of cell phone envy.

Jag - this phone is shockingly, FINALLY coming to America on at&t for $129 starting August 15th (ahem, Amazon for $49 a week later…).  Even more shockingly, it will run Android 1.6 which is at least 8 months old at this point.  Unbelievable.

vansmack wrote:
Jag - this phone is shockingly,

shockingly what?

sweetcell wrote:
shockingly what?

(First adverb regarding manner) Shockingly COMMA (an added pause for dramatic effect, but perhaps you would prefer I not add the dramatic effect?) (insert second adverb regarding time frame, use all caps to magnify the dramatic effect) FINALLY (insert gerund phrase to complete the what of the sentence….)

Then again, who gives a fuck about an oxford came anymore…

vansmack wrote:

vansmack wrote:
Jag, you bring up two good points.

The first is that the Xperia X1 (Sony Ericsson's top phone) makes me jizz in my pants a little.  It's a beautiful phone that American carriers have avoided like the plague.  It's all over Europe and Asia and causes me a tremendous amount of cell phone envy.

Jag - this phone is shockingly, FINALLY coming to America on at&t for $129 starting August 15th (ahem, Amazon for $49 a week later…).  Even more shockingly, it will run Android 1.6 which is at least 8 months old at this point.  Unbelievable.

Great news! Do you have a really good reason to suspect that T-Mobil might eventually be accessible with this phone?

Jaguar wrote:
Great news! Do you have a really good reason to suspect that T-Mobil might eventually be accessible with this phone?

Tough to tell.

If the hardware features of the phone are what you are looking for, then check out the Samsung Vibrant from t-mobile which is very similar (if not a liitle stronger hardware wise and already has Android 2.1 soon to be 2.2) for $199 with a 2-year contract.  No unlocking necessary.

If it's the slick user interface you like on the Xperia, then either patience or unlocking are all you can do.  It's not clear if T-Mobile will pick this phone up or not to save you some benjamins, otherwise you can pick up the phone next week for full price (~$400) from at&t and then unlock it (when the code is cracked).

I've been known to be quite patient so I think I'll wait.

All in all, it's good news for US phone users. Nice to know that we are catching up with the rest of the world. Then again, it only makes me wonder what all is being offered now overseas that we won't see on our shores for years down the road.

Live Nation powering iTunes 10 concert listings and ticket sales…ugh…….

http://technology.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978488116

Come on.  That can't be surprising at all?

Moog Music Make Filtatron, an iPhone Filtering, Effects, and Sampling App
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/10/11/exclusive-leak-moog-music-make-filtatron-an-iphone-ipod-touch-app/

net-nanny'ism comes to the iphone:

Apple patents 'anti-sexting' technology
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/10/13/apple.sexting.patent/index.html

Man, dick recognition software has really come a long way…

sweetcell wrote:
net-nanny'ism comes to the iphone:

Apple patents 'anti-sexting' technology
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/10/13/apple.sexting.patent/index.html