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My Iphone is now 3 years old and is slower than molaesses in January….  it is time to upgrade… the question is Iphone or Droid?

Doctor wrote:
My Iphone is now 3 years old and is slower than molaesses in January….  it is time to upgrade… the question is Iphone or Droid?


Droid.  The Captivate is awesome, but at&t announced 11 new Android smartphones for 2011, so you might want to hang on for just a little while longer to get an HSPA+ model to take advantage of 4G.
vansmack wrote:
Doctor wrote:
My Iphone is now 3 years old and is slower than molaesses in January….  it is time to upgrade… the question is Iphone or Droid?


Droid.  The Captivate is awesome, but at&t announced 11 new Android smartphones for 2011, so you might want to hang on for just a little while longer to get an HSPA+ model to take advantage of 4G.


I was looking at the Captivate but I understand AT&T blocks third party apps… how big a problem is that in real life?

the Nexus-S looks awesome but I don't want T-Mobile…
Doctor wrote:
I was looking at the Captivate but I understand AT&T blocks third party apps… how big a problem is that in real life?


Coming from somebody with an iPhone, I find this question highly ironic -  It can't be worse than Apple and at&t combined, I can assure you of that.

They block sideloading (ie, apps not found in the app store) but I've been instructing my coworker on his Captivate and every app I've suggested has been available in the market.  I've only sideloaded one app myself, and it was a game for beta testing.

If you want to send me some typical apps you use, I'll see if they're available in the market.
I don't use any unusual apps, and I'm guessing the maybe 5-10 apps I have from the App Store on the Iphone are all available.    The most important is Nextbus, also a bike ride mapping app, Last.fm, Yelp, and Shazam.

Another Droid question – is there a way to easily rent movies, as one can do on the Iphone thru Itunes?

the only remaining question would be how long before that next generation of phones you mentioned is available, and how much of a difference will it really make.  There's always something newer and better around the corner, but meanwhile I'm stuck with an increasingly slow and sucky Iphone.
i used one of those ghost radar apps today in a house that was notorious for having slaves during the civil war . . . words such as "kept" "free" "trade" "mean" appeared.  i thought that was cool.
Doctor wrote:
The most important is Nextbus, also a bike ride mapping app, Last.fm, Yelp, and Shazam.


Yes: Nextbus, yelp, Shazam

I'll check on last.fm tomorrow, but I'm 99.9% positive that at&t didn't block it (I have it on my Galaxy S).  The bike map app I'd need more info, but I'm sure there are equivalents.


Another Droid question – is there a way to easily rent movies, as one can do on the Iphone thru Itunes?


My phone has an app called the Samsung Media Hub that allows you to rent movies, but you can only watch them on your phone.  That would be the type of thing at&t would block though, so I'll check tomorrow.

mspot will let you rent directly to your phone, and I'm pretty sure youtube will too (they have a movie rental section). Blockbuster, Netflix, RedBox and Amazon are all planning similar apps.

The phone is DLNA compliant as well, so you can share those movies with most other DLNA compliant devices.


the only remaining question would be how long before that next generation of phones you mentioned is available, and how much of a difference will it really make.   There's always something newer and better around the corner, but meanwhile I'm stuck with an increasingly slow and sucky Iphone.


I don't think the dual-core processors will make much of a difference over this phone.  It already has a separate processor and graphics chip.  I've watched many a 1080p movie on it and it's easily the most impressive feature of the phone that gets a lot of "wow"s.

The 4g network capability however, would make a HUGE difference, especially if you plan to have the phone for 2-3 years.  By the end of the year, every carrier will have a 4G network that will greatly increase download speeds.  If you buy the phone now, you may be missing out on new network capabilities for quite some time.

For example, I download movies and TV shows directly to my Galaxy S over Sprint's 4G network in a matter of minutes.  And that was just a test as I don't watch much on phone - it sounds like you might watch a lot more on your phone then I do. 
Actually the only time I watch movies on my phone is on a plane, but it's one of the reasons I got an Iphone in the first place.  Streaming a movie isn't important to me, just the ability to rent them and load them on the phone.

any idea when those 4G phones will be available on AT&T?
Last.fm is available on at&t.
Media Hub is also available to download movies for watching on planes.
mSpot Movies is also available to download movies.
mSpot Music is branded as at&t music for another streaming source of music.

I don't have a release date for LTE/HSPA+ phones yet, but I put a call in.  I'll let you know.
The HTC Inspire 4G and the Motorola Atrix 4G are both expected to hit shelves in the first half of 2011 and take advantage of at&t's upgraded HSPA+ network. They would not be any more specific than "first half" - sorry.

They did not have any information in the Samsung Infuse 4G.

They do not expect any LTE phones until the later half of 2011.
vansmack wrote:
The HTC Inspire 4G and the Motorola Atrix 4G are both expected to hit shelves in the first half of 2011 and take advantage of at&t's upgraded HSPA+ network. They would not be any more specific than "first half" - sorry.

They did not have any information in the Samsung Infuse 4G.

They do not expect any LTE phones until the later half of 2011.


I can't wait that long, and bleeding edge technology is always super expensive at first too.  The stuff that's out there looks cool enough for me for now.  I think I am ready to jump in.  Thanks for your advice!

I guess my only last question is, you seem to be OK with AT&T.  Given all the crap one hears about them I am wondering whether it's not a good time to switch carriers, too.  Or is it just not worth the bother.
I'm beating a dead horse, but my iPhone works great now that there is a Verizon MiFi hotspot in my office that I can use.  At home Kosmette often gets texts several hours after there were sent, not to mention twice there have been tower outages, that only the local att store acknowledged existing.  Verizon iPhone here I come.
Doctor wrote:
I guess my only last question is, you seem to be OK with AT&T.   Given all the crap one hears about them I am wondering whether it's not a good time to switch carriers, too.   Or is it just not worth the bother.


Um, no - I hate at&t, and I did long before the iPhone exclusive deal.  But that doesn't mean everybody else should.

Here's the advice I give to everybody who asks:  go with the service provider that gives you the best coverage in the two places you use the phone most often: usually that's home and work. 

Every carrier has dead spots. How many times do you hear people say "Oh I hate [insert cell phone carrier].  Their coverage is the worst - I couldn't reception at my apt/when my parents came to visit they couldn't/it would drop a call every time I drove home at the same spot/etc."   The truth is they all have fairly good coverage considering how big the US is, but the only thing that should matter is do they have coverage where you use the phone most.  If you get solid coverage at home and work, then 99% of your cell usage will be great.  And that's the carrier for you.

If all things are equal, go with the cheapest one, but I doubt that will be the case.

And just for the record, I have been with Sprint for almost 15 years.
And the fact that the Verizon iPhone is not LTE means everybody should stay away.  Why lock yourself in for 18 months on a 3G phone when Verizon is already rolling out it's 4G network.  Unbelievable.
i dont plan on switching, but the fact that verizon is allowing the iphone to be a hotspot on their network is a big selling point
godsshoeshine wrote:
i dont plan on switching, but the fact that verizon is allowing the iphone to be a hotspot on their network is a big selling point


It will probably force at&t's hand, finally.  Amazing what a little competition can do….

But still: great, a 3G hotspot when the 4G network is ten times faster. 
right, i dont even want a new phone. all i want is to use my current phone as a wireless hotspot a few times per year
godsshoeshine wrote:
right, i dont even want a new phone. all i want is to use my current phone as a wireless hotspot a few times per year


If they were pay-as-you-go sure, but most Hot Spots I've seen are billed monthly.
vansmack wrote:
Doctor wrote:
I guess my only last question is, you seem to be OK with AT&T.   Given all the crap one hears about them I am wondering whether it's not a good time to switch carriers, too.   Or is it just not worth the bother.


Um, no - I hate at&t, and I did long before the iPhone exclusive deal.  But that doesn't mean everybody else should.

Here's the advice I give to everybody who asks:  go with the service provider that gives you the best coverage in the two places you use the phone most often: usually that's home and work. 

Every carrier has dead spots. How many times do you hear people say "Oh I hate [insert cell phone carrier].  Their coverage is the worst - I couldn't reception at my apt/when my parents came to visit they couldn't/it would drop a call every time I drove home at the same spot/etc."   The truth is they all have fairly good coverage considering how big the US is, but the only thing that should matter is do they have coverage where you use the phone most.  If you get solid coverage at home and work, then 99% of your cell usage will be great.  And that's the carrier for you.

If all things are equal, go with the cheapest one, but I doubt that will be the case.

And just for the record, I have been with Sprint for almost 15 years.


Well cool.  Thank you for your thorough and nuanced advice.