Last Great Debut Album?

Originally posted by nkotb:
Looks like Reasonable Doubt came out in 1996, which I think may give the Director the win. That's definitely a top contender.

I'm a walking hip-hop encyclopedia. Just don't flex it until necessary. :D

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by BookerT:
Dre - The Chronic

Good Call.

Dre's is a debut in name, but the spirit of a classic debit is a band that comes from out of nowhere. Just sayin is all.

Funeral will stand the test of time, and will surely be looked back as a classic album.

I read somewhere that in the last twenty years there's only been three albums that changed (or at least altered) the state of rock due to not only the album's impact, but also what became "cool" and "uncool" after the album's release. Is This It, Nevermind and Appetite for Destruction.

"Is This It" easily is the weakest of the three in terms of sales and most of the general public probably can't even hum "Last Nite" but the guitar bands that suddenly got attention because of the Strokes and the hype are numerous.

Brian

Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
Snoop Doggy Dog - Doggystyle!!

I endorse it, even though The Chronic was more or less Snoop's debut. Good call nonetheless.

Originally posted by TheDirector217:
P.S. Where do you think trip-hop originated from???

Like most music post-1971, it was a reactionary response to The Velvet Underground. Hello! :roll:

it's too bad no doubt's tragic kingdom wasn't their debut. or else that would have been my vote.

I could also throw the Stone Roses record in there. Even more interesting since they totally imploded after it.

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I request a Satanic funeral.

Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
I don't agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Got it. I don't think anything has come out since Appetite that has had that kind of impact.

[walks away with tail between legs]

Originally posted by nkotb:
Well hell, I love Ween's debut album, but I'd be kidding myself to put in on a list with Appetite.

Did you miss the "single debut album that caused such a stir" clause in my original post? Or the "he only thing I can think of as a potential contender would be Slanted &amp; Enchanted, but less face facts…it didn't have a quarter of the reach that Appetite did." Or maybe the "And don't start throwing around bullshit "I love the Arctic Monkeys' debut album" because that's pure idiocy" part?

Originally posted by allmy$to930:
We are not talking about impact. We are talking about "great albums". I think a lot of people consider Heartbreaker to be a great album. I easily consider it to be one of the ten best of the last decade, and it was a debut.

Haha…sorry if I was cranky. It's a thousand degrees in my office and I haven't stopped sweating since my morning run.

I do like Heartbreaker, if it's any consolation!

Originally posted by allmy$to930:
Got it. I don't think anything has come out since Appetite that has had that kind of impact.

[walks away with tail between legs]

WOW! How did I forget these??

ATCQ - People's Instinctive Travels & The Paths Of Rhythm (I've seen a couple of you hipsters reference "El Segundo" numerous times.)

De La Soul - 3 Feet High & Rising

These albums changed the face of hip-hop, as harder/street shit seemed to be taking over until these 2 albums popped up in the early 90s.

Originally posted by miss pretentious:
it's too bad no doubt's tragic kingdom wasn't their debut. or else that would have been my vote.

I was going to say the same, but did anybody on the board besides me, own No Doubt S/T before Tragic Kingdom came out?

Wait, does anybody even own Tragic Kingdom?

Originally posted by nkotb:
Haha…sorry if I was cranky. It's a thousand degrees in my office and I haven't stopped sweating since my morning run.

Actually, I think all this talk about GnR, Anthrax, NWA and Dre has taken you back to your "Angry Days" growing up….

The only two really acceptable answers to this are Neutral Milk Hotel's On Avery Island and Raccoo-oo-oon's Night People.

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by miss pretentious:
it's too bad no doubt's tragic kingdom wasn't their debut. or else that would have been my vote.

I was going to say the same, but did anybody on the board besides me, own No Doubt S/T before Tragic Kingdom came out?

Wait, does anybody even own Tragic Kingdom?

Love me some Miss P, got love for vansmack. Gotta disagree. There wasn't anything particularly influential about Tragic Kingdom. Sublime & 311 were already running with the "ska thing" that exploded in the mid-90s. Which was really fueled by the fact that suburban kids were copping Bob Marley's Legend by the boatload like the shit was new.

BTW, nkotb this is EASILY the best thread in weeks. Gold star for you!

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by miss pretentious:
it's too bad no doubt's tragic kingdom wasn't their debut. or else that would have been my vote.

I was going to say the same, but did anybody on the board besides me, own No Doubt S/T before Tragic Kingdom came out?

Wait, does anybody even own Tragic Kingdom?

i so own tragic kingdom.
afterall… i am just a girl.

I'm not saying they don't count; just in my opinion neither had quite the impact that Appetite did (though I'd say Pavement had a bigger impact than Jeff Buckley, but again, it's just my opinion).

quote:Originally posted by mbg73:
If Pavement doesn't count, Jeff Buckley doesn't count.

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant.

That's not Beck's debut.

quote:Originally posted by mbg73:


Uhhh…Mellow Gold?

True, but they all came out within the same year and pretty close to one another, so I figured it was acceptable. But agreed, not a true debut.

Ten was a good call, and the closest thing to Appetite posted so far.

I own Tragic Kingdom, but only ironically, and I've never actually listened to it.

Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
I own Tragic Kingdom, but only ironically, and I've never actually listened to it.

why would you own an album ironically?

I actually own it as well, and the two proper follow-ups. And their not my wife's. And its not ironically.

Originally posted by miss pretentious:

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by miss pretentious:
it's too bad no doubt's tragic kingdom wasn't their debut. or else that would have been my vote.

I was going to say the same, but did anybody on the board besides me, own No Doubt S/T before Tragic Kingdom came out?

Wait, does anybody even own Tragic Kingdom?

i so own tragic kingdom.
afterall… i am just a girl.