Big Yawn is a Joke

I'm typing, 'tard

later!
heh… how long can this thread last? :D
Originally posted by HerrDoktorDoom:
heh… how long can this thread last? :D
Shhh…. remember what we talked about? Any publicity is good publicity. Just ask Paris hilton.
About 100 times as long as you did with that Paris Hilton picture in your left hand last night. :D

Originally posted by HerrDoktorDoom:
heh… how long can this thread last? :D
well you sure fooled me.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
About 100 times as long as you did with that Paris Hilton picture in your left hand last night. :D
stop looking in my window!
Originally posted by Celeste:
I am a bitch, but I like it that way…
Good thing I'm on vacation so I had time to read this drivel. Four pages - I read it all and I feel this point was never fully explained. It wasn't about the music, the web site, the review, the people, or anything other then Celeste and Rhett's boredom needing to incite others. That's what bitches do, and they like doing it. How many years has this been going on folks? And you still let them do this to you? Silly people.
Who asked you, asshole?

Did you even read the two offensive reviews?

Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Celeste:
I am a bitch, but I like it that way…
Good thing I'm on vacation so I had time to read this drivel. Four pages - I read it all and I feel this point was never fully explained. It wasn't about the music, the web site, the review, the people, or anything other then Celeste and Rhett's boredom needing to incite others. That's what bitches do, and they like doing it. How many years has this been going on folks? And you still let them do this to you? Silly people.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Who asked you, asshole?

Did you even read the two offensive reviews?

Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Celeste:
I am a bitch, but I like it that way…
Good thing I'm on vacation so I had time to read this drivel. Four pages - I read it all and I feel this point was never fully explained. It wasn't about the music, the web site, the review, the people, or anything other then Celeste and Rhett's boredom needing to incite others. That's what bitches do, and they like doing it. How many years has this been going on folks? And you still let them do this to you? Silly people.
smackie's point proven.

besides, who takes such offense to a CD review???
lol. talk about being petty.

i bet even that ringenburg guy wouldnt have cared as much!
I think we've learned on this board that different people get offended by different things. Sometimes these things may seem trivial to the person saying them, as well as others who are not offended by the comment.

Perhaps offensive was not the right wording. But it is annoying to read stuff and dumb as the shit in these two reviews, even if was written by a mere kid pretending to be a music journalist.

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Who asked you, asshole?

Did you even read the two offensive reviews?

Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Celeste:
I am a bitch, but I like it that way…
Good thing I'm on vacation so I had time to read this drivel. Four pages - I read it all and I feel this point was never fully explained. It wasn't about the music, the web site, the review, the people, or anything other then Celeste and Rhett's boredom needing to incite others. That's what bitches do, and they like doing it. How many years has this been going on folks? And you still let them do this to you? Silly people.
smackie's point proven.

besides, who takes such offense to a CD review???
lol. talk about being petty.

i bet even that ringenburg guy wouldnt have cared as much!
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I think we've learned on this board that different people get offended by different things.
and some people are just generally offended by other people on this board!
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Who asked you, asshole?
You did:

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
If someone has a personal problem with a certain writer or editor, sure ot would make sense to email them personally about it. But if you have a critique of something out there on the web, particularly something that gets mentioned here endlessly, why not critique it here?
So there's no need to call me names. I didn't call your wife a bitch, she labeled herself a bitch, and did so proudly I might add.
My point was…why jump into a conversation that pretty much ended yesterday?

The conversation was about the poor, vitriolic quality of the writing in the two reviews that would tend to reflect poorly on the website that they were posted on. The conversation was not about Vansmack being judgemental about other people on the board.




Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Who asked you, asshole?
You did:

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
If someone has a personal problem with a certain writer or editor, sure ot would make sense to email them personally about it. But if you have a critique of something out there on the web, particularly something that gets mentioned here endlessly, why not critique it here?
So there's no need to call me names. I didn't call your wife a bitch, she labeled herself a bitch, and did so proudly I might add.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Did you even read the two offensive reviews?

I did Rhett. But I know better the to make blanket statements about Slate, ESPN, Salon or any other web site because I disagree with an article or two contained therein. And so should someone who writes professionally for a living.

And I don't go to Country Music web sites to read reviews about the new U2 CD. And if they do review it, would I be shocked that they hate it? No. And even if I were shocked, I would definitely not be shocked enough to write a six paragraph critique and post it on a different web site all together.

Doesn't Big Yawn have an avenue for your wife's grumbling? I assume she would have used it first, unless of course her point was to do something completely different then her (somewhat masked) attempt at taking offense to two reviews of CD's she disagreed with.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
My point was…why jump into a conversation that pretty much ended yesterday?
Forgive me for not being able to get this particular point out of "who asked you, asshole?" - perhaps you should have just come out and said this was over yesterday. To my credit or discredit, I was travelling yesterday, and unable to post my thoughts until today.


Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The conversation was about the poor, vitriolic quality of the writing in the two reviews that would tend to reflect poorly on the website that they were posted on. The conversation was not about Vansmack being judgemental about other people on the board.
Forgive me if I don't take a lesson from you on not being judgmental of people on the board. It was your wife's "Big Yawn is a club of second-rate wanna-bes" amd calling them "kiddies" post that started it all (knowing full well that those folks are on this board, otherwise she takes her beef up on the Big Yawn Board). You're wife called herself a bitch and I agreed. I was not being judgemental so much as I was giving her the affirmation she seemd so deeply to be craving.
I don't know if Big Yawn has a forum to grumble about their reviews. I don't know if the Washington Post does. I don't know if Rolling Stone, Magnet, Spin, Pitchfork, Popmatters, or any other music publications have forums for people to grumble about their reviews. When I want to talk about music, concerts, music reviews, or anything music related, this board is where I go. And my wife as well.

Big Yawn bills itself as "O2 for the musically starved." (it seems as if someone who was STARVED would need food more than oxygen, but whatever) I didn't realize that they billed themselves as a website specific to any certain genre. So when I saw reviews of a couple of country related artists that I was fond of, I though perhaps that they are a website that covers a variety of genres (which is the kind of website I like!). Thus, it was a bit of a shock to read these two reviews that were both condescending to the genre they were dealing with, and the artists in particular. If you're going to review something, at least start my having some respect for the genre you're dealing with.

Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Did you even read the two offensive reviews?

I did Rhett. But I know better the to make blanket statements about Slate, ESPN, Salon or any other web site because I disagree with an article or two contained therein. And so should someone who writes professionally for a living.

And I don't go to Country Music web sites to read reviews about the new U2 CD. And if they do review it, would I be shocked that they hate it? No. And even if I were shocked, I would definitely not be shocked enough to write a six paragraph critique and post it on a different web site all together.

Doesn't Big Yawn have an avenue for your wife's grumbling? I assume she would have used it first, unless of course her point was to do something completely different then her (somewhat masked) attempt at taking offense to two reviews of CD's she disagreed with.
Well, to finally clear up this one point, from the Ontario Science center:

"The accepted theory is that we yawn when there's not enough oxygen in our lungs. When you're relaxed, your breathing is shallow and only the air sacs at the very bottom of your lungs get used. If these sacs don't get enough fresh air, the tissue tends to stiffen up a bit. Your brain then tells your body to yawn and get more oxygen down there."

Does this finally explain our tag line? New music (O2) for the oxygen (new music) starved mind.

Now, in terms of genre, we do like to include lots of genres… some examples:

Hip-hop - http://www.bigyawn.net/cdreview.php?id=122

electronic - http://www.bigyawn.net/cdreview.php?id=15

alt-country - http://www.bigyawn.net/cdreview.php?id=148

post rock - http://www.bigyawn.net/cdreview.php?id=71

folk/singer-songwriter - http://www.bigyawn.net/cdreview.php?id=85

pop - http://www.bigyawn.net/cdreview.php?id=88

trance - http://www.bigyawn.net/cdreview.php?id=94

metal - http://www.bigyawn.net/cdreview.php?id=163

So, we try to include all sorts of stuff, not just your standard alt/indie stuff. Maybe I need to find a better alt country writer, or a real metal-head, but the bottom line is the coverage is there whether or not you like the opinions or the writing style.
Yes, that all makes sense.

Have a Merry Xmas.