Originally posted by walkonby:well i've never had accounts on either of those so i can't speak from personal experience about the usefulness of those.
Originally posted by distance:i've said the same thing about myspace and facebook for a long time.
maybe they should make up for the bull run shows before they make up for the nissan pavillion show? at least that one actually happened. has an online petition EVER done anything useful?
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did they ever give people their money back on this show?
As of Tuesday, I've been promised a refund by the people at Nissan. They said that I can expect a check within 6-8 weeks. However, it was only after 4 unsuccesful calls that all ended with a promise of an email explaining my options which never came. I was one of the people prevented from ever entering the parking lot, so I don't know if that made a difference. During the last phone call, they asked questions about that. I'm glad they're (finally) doing the right thing.
Originally posted by conorh98:they're under no obligation to give refunds. there is no "right things" that they should be doing. the fact that they are offering refunds is pretty magnanimous of them.
I'm glad they're (finally) doing the right thing.
Originally posted by sweetcell:I disagree. According to the ticketmaster website, parking for Nissan is free and included in the ticket price and they claim "plenty of parking is available." By purchasing a ticket he had a right to enter both the Pavilion and the parking lot and he was denied those rights by Nissan staff.
Originally posted by conorh98:they're under no obligation to give refunds. there is no "right things" that they should be doing. the fact that they are offering refunds is pretty magnanimous of them.
I'm glad they're (finally) doing the right thing.
Originally posted by Mobius:… because the roads were flooded and there was no way of getting to the parking lot? maybe in your case someone was negligent and willfully turned you away once you were at the entrance, but i'm under the impression that for the majority of people who never made it there was no way to get to the parking lot b/c of washed out roads. this was due to the weather, , something nissan pav has no control over. there was a general lack of communication and people were made to drive in circles, but that wouldn't have changed the outcome. do correct me if i'm wrong.
By purchasing a ticket he had a right to enter both the Pavilion and the parking lot and he was denied those rights by Nissan staff.
Originally posted by sweetcell:It was my impression that they eventually just closed the gates and stopped letting people in. People were driving right up to the entrance and were turned away.
Originally posted by Mobius:… because the roads were flooded and there was no way of getting to the parking lot? maybe in your case someone was negligent and willfully turned you away once you were at the entrance, but i'm under the impression that for the majority of people who never made it there was no way to get to the parking lot b/c of washed out roads. this was due to the weather, , something nissan pav has no control over. do correct me if i'm wrong.
By purchasing a ticket he had a right to enter both the Pavilion and the parking lot and he was denied those rights by Nissan staff.
I think it would be fair to give refunds to anyone that can produce unused tickets. No refunds for anyone who actually got into the show.
if flooding on the road had prevented you from getting to the parking lot on your own or because of police roadblocks, then i can see that no refunds would be in order, but if Nissan staff were the ones who made you turn around..then they are obligated to refund.
If they themselves were refusing access to their own rain or shine show then they must refund those people.
If they themselves were refusing access to their own rain or shine show then they must refund those people.
ah, ok, if staff were turning people away at the gate then refunds are indeed in order. which means nissan/livenation probably has to refund everyone with an unused ticket - unless they interview each person and determine if they were actively turned away vs. just being stuck in the rain/washed out roads.
Is it too late to bitch about getting sick from this show?
I'm sure I was teased with pneumonia. I'm still drinking cough syrup from that post show clusterfunk.
I'm sure I was teased with pneumonia. I'm still drinking cough syrup from that post show clusterfunk.
Originally posted by i'm her slave:three and a half weeks later? time for a new immune system :p
Is it too late to bitch about getting sick from this show?
I'm sure I was teased with pneumonia. I'm still drinking cough syrup from that post show clusterfunk.
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:Exactly. No one's blaming the individual staff. But if its a 'rain or shine' show and the venue lacks the capability to honor its obligations to those who paid for parking and to enter the venue (I believe the purchase of the ticket entitles you to both - parking is free BECAUSE its cost is included in the ticket)- and therefore denies ticketholder entry - then purchaser is entitled to a refund.
If they themselves were refusing access to their own rain or shine show then they must refund those people.
Originally posted by sweetcell:got one I can borrow/abuse?
time for a new immune system :p
Originally posted by i'm her slave:going to have to check my schedule… currently doing a decent job of abusing my own as is.
Originally posted by sweetcell:got one I can borrow/abuse?
time for a new immune system :p
That's an interesting point. How many of you are still sick from the show? I still have this horrible cough that i got that night. Haven't gotten it checked out yet, but it's almost been a month. Anyone else still ill??
I find all these complaints to be a bit ridiculous. I got to Nissan plenty early, and there were no problemms at all. If everyone supposedly knows Nissan is horrible for traffic, it should have been common sense that shitty weather will make that worse, meaning leave really early for the concert. It seems like common sense to me.
there is a strong argument in favor of common sense = not going to nissan at all.
i still have some nice foot fungus
Originally posted by sweetcell:fair point, but I'm just saying, it's been publicized that Nissan is not a well planned venue, so people should have known to leave early, especially for a sold out show in terrible weather.
there is a strong argument in favor of common sense = not going to nissan at all.
Originally posted by gaaaaaaaaah:but you dont need to rub it in everyones face after the fact, really. besides, some ppl may have had plans for sunday afternoon, being mothers day and such.
I find all these complaints to be a bit ridiculous. I got to Nissan plenty early, and there were no problemms at all. If everyone supposedly knows Nissan is horrible for traffic, it should have been common sense that shitty weather will make that worse, meaning leave really early for the concert. It seems like common sense to me.