ORIOLES

I bet he has a five year old daughter.

that is funny.

Great game last night!  Cold at the Yard, but who cares? 

James wrote:
I bet he has a five year old daughter.

But if he had a five year old daughter he wouldn't be able to go to the game.

Per Elias: The Orioles have won a franchise-record 102 consecutive regular season games when leading after seven innings, the last loss coming Aug. 8, 2011. It's the second-longest streak for any club during the expansion era since 1961, trailing just the 1998-99 Yankees (116).

Why do they cut this stat off at 1961?

Shemp wrote:
Per Elias: The Orioles have won a franchise-record 102 consecutive regular season games when leading after seven innings, the last loss coming Aug. 8, 2011. It's the second-longest streak for any club during the expansion era since 1961, trailing just the 1998-99 Yankees (116).

I don't have cable tv…any reason given why Johnson wasn't pitching today in a save situation bottom of the ninth?

Is there a better starting five than MClouth-Machado-Markakis-Jones-Davis? Noiw if Buck could get the other bums to hit, they'd have something.

James wrote:
I don't have cable tv…any reason given why Johnson wasn't pitching today in a save situation bottom of the ninth?

Is there a better starting five than MClouth-Machado-Markakis-Jones-Davis? Noiw if Buck could get the other bums to hit, they'd have something.

Johnson had pitched 5 of the last 6 days, I think.  He should have had Saturday off, as the O's took a 4 run lead into the 9th, but Strop immediately crapped the bed and Johnson had to pitch.

James wrote:
Why do they cut this stat off at 1961?

You'll have to ask the  Elias specifically, but 1961 was the first time MLB expanded since taking on the American League in 1901. Over the next decade, MLB added 7 teams, greatly increasing the talent pool, which in turn caused some weird statistical anomalies. Since then, some statisticians refer to feats performed today in comparison to only those other feats that happened "since the expansion era" which is usually considered to be 1961-1976ish.

Thanks for that explanation. It seems like that stat is one that they should carry back further if they want to make it sound impressive.

vansmack wrote:

James wrote:
Why do they cut this stat off at 1961?

You'll have to ask the  Elias specifically, but 1961 was the first time MLB expanded since taking on the American League in 1901. Over the next decade, MLB added 7 teams, greatly increasing the talent pool, which in turn caused some weird statistical anomalies. Since then, some statisticians refer to feats performed today in comparison to only those other feats that happened "since the expansion era" which is usually considered to be 1961-1976ish.

There's no hope in Strop.  Something's gotta give.

Nigel wrote:

James wrote:
I don't have cable tv…any reason given why Johnson wasn't pitching today in a save situation bottom of the ninth?

Is there a better starting five than MClouth-Machado-Markakis-Jones-Davis? Noiw if Buck could get the other bums to hit, they'd have something.

Johnson had pitched 5 of the last 6 days, I think.  He should have had Saturday off, as the O's took a 4 run lead into the 9th, but Strop immediately crapped the bed and Johnson had to pitch.

Strop needs to go.

Seven earned runs in eight innings pitched. Big deal. You probably said the same thing about Brian Matusz in 2011.

Shemp wrote:
There's no hope in Strop.  Something's gotta give.

James wrote:
Seven earned runs in eight innings pitched. Big deal. You probably said the same thing about Brian Matusz in 2011.

Shemp wrote:
There's no hope in Strop.  Something's gotta give.

This goes back to last year.  They couldn't rely on him down the stretch or in the playoffs.  He seems totally clueless right now.

The unfortunate thing is he's out of options.

People were saying last year that Johnson should be traded and Strop should be the closer.  Now everyone says he should be released.  Sports fans are so insane.  Let the guy work out his kinks.  The Orioles have a great record.  Winning 3 out of 4 in Oakland on the road is impressive.

James wrote:
Seven earned runs in eight innings pitched. Big deal. You probably said the same thing about Brian Matusz in 2011.

Shemp wrote:
There's no hope in Strop.  Something's gotta give.

No.  I love Brian Matusz!  Strop cannot control the ball, he cannot field the ball, he just looks lost out there.  Time to send him down to the minors to get the kinks worked out….I think he'll be back.

And I really like Strop in general.  He was super nice at Fanfest and has a great smile!

K8teebug wrote:

James wrote:
Seven earned runs in eight innings pitched. Big deal. You probably said the same thing about Brian Matusz in 2011.

Shemp wrote:
There's no hope in Strop.  Something's gotta give.

No.  I love Brian Matusz!  Strop cannot control the ball, he cannot field the ball, he just looks lost out there.  Time to send him down to the minors to get the kinks worked out….I think he'll be back.

And I really like Strop in general.  He was super nice at Fanfest and has a great smile!

If you send him down to  the minors he won't be back.  He is out of options so you will to DFA him and any team can claim him off waivers or he can refuse the assignment and be a free agent.  Strop is too good to make it through waivers. 

atomicfront wrote:If you send him down to  the minors he won't be back.  He is out of options so you will to DFA him and any team can claim him off waivers or he can refuse the assignment and be a free agent.  Strop is too good to make it through waivers. 

Yeah, Strop by himself isn't necessarily a huge problem - he's talented enough that you have to give him time to work it out in Kevin Gregg-style low leverage situations.  But having McFarland and Hunter, who also can't be counted on, in the same bullpen, plus having none of the starters able to go more than 6 innings is just asking for trouble.

atomicfront wrote:
If you send him down to  the minors he won't be back.  He is out of options so you will to DFA him and any team can claim him off waivers or he can refuse the assignment and be a free agent.  Strop is too good to make it through waivers. 

This.  I don't think I'm going out on a limb in saying Anaheim would claim him for sure at $500k and Arb-1 eligibility not until 2014.

Nigel wrote:
having none of the starters able to go more than 6 innings is just asking for trouble.

And this.  IT doesn't matter who's in your pen if the starters don't give them a break, especially on this road trip.  But fear not - you've got Anaheim soon, and we're great for starters going deep. 

Should have re-signed Joe Saunders!

He pitched really well while he was here.  Not too shabby last night, either.