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Nolan Reimold? Really?

James wrote:
Nolan Reimold? Really?

He's worth a flyer at $1 million…oh wait, that's what they said last year.

vansmack wrote:

James wrote:
Nolan Reimold? Really?

He's worth a flyer at $1 million…oh wait, that's what they said last year.

1 million dollars down the drain.  What is he like 30?

vansmack wrote:

The group consists of catcher Matt Wieters, first baseman Chris Davis, outfielders Nolan Reimold and Steve Pearce, relievers Troy Patton, Brian Matusz, Tommy Hunter and Jim Johnson, and starter Bud Norris.

Here's MLBTradeRumor's Matt Swartz with their projected raises:
Catcher Matt Wieters ($7.9MM); first baseman Chris Davis ($10MM); outfielders Nolan Reimold ($1.2MM) and Steve Pearce ($1.1MM); relievers Troy Patton ($1.2MM), Brian Matusz ($2.1MM), Tommy Hunter ($3.1MM), and Jim Johnson ($10.8MM); and starter Bud Norris ($5MM). In total, Swartz projects a $42.4MM tab for the group.

Shemp wrote:

vansmack wrote:

The group consists of catcher Matt Wieters, first baseman Chris Davis, outfielders Nolan Reimold and Steve Pearce, relievers Troy Patton, Brian Matusz, Tommy Hunter and Jim Johnson, and starter Bud Norris.

Here's MLBTradeRumor's Matt Swartz with their projected raises:
Catcher Matt Wieters ($7.9MM); first baseman Chris Davis ($10MM); outfielders Nolan Reimold ($1.2MM) and Steve Pearce ($1.1MM); relievers Troy Patton ($1.2MM), Brian Matusz ($2.1MM), Tommy Hunter ($3.1MM), and Jim Johnson ($10.8MM); and starter Bud Norris ($5MM). In total, Swartz projects a $42.4MM tab for the group.

Guys who get too much for their production:  Jim J.  Matusz, Hunter, Pearce, and Reimold. 

Norris and Davis seem like bargains. 

I really can't see how Pearce or Reimold are worth that money.  I would just try and get someone for the league minimum.  Odds are you could get someone better for less.

Johnson for Jemile Weeks.

Never trade with Billie Beane - he'll probably flip Johnson for 3 studs.

Although, seriously.  $22 million for Kazmir, and now ~$10m for Johnson?  These are not my daddy's A's.

Anyhow, Jemile Weeks is not your answer at 2B.

terrible terrible move by the orioles.  but i guess Angelos saves money

Just going to trust Dan…

Will miss JJ.

Got wrote:
terrible terrible move by the orioles.  but i guess Angelos saves money

The money will go elsewhere.  That would have been a pretty fat contract for JJ.

K8teebug wrote:
Just going to trust Dan…

Will miss JJ.

It sure looks like they weren't going to tender him and got what they could in a dump.

Says Buster:

? On one hand, the Orioles insisted that they were going to tender a contract to closer Jim Johnson, and on the other hand, other teams reported in recent weeks that the O's were working feverishly to dump the closer, who will make close to $11 million in 2014 via arbitration. Given the timing of the trade with Oakland – right around when the Orioles would've been required to tender an offer to Johnson – there is a ton of industry speculation that Baltimore would've simply non-tendered Johnson if they didn't find a deal.

And the trade they did find is regarded as something close to a giveaway, because Jemile Weeks is regarded as a first-round bust. He turns 27 in January, and has a .319 on-base percentage in 223 games in the majors.

Johnson is a big-time ground ball guy and likely benefited from one of the better defensive infields in baseball with the Orioles. But he'll be pitching in a much more forgiving park in Oakland.

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Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 59m
Two questions O's must now answer: 1. Who's the closer? 2. How could the A's–the Moneyball Athletics–afford what the Orioles could not?

I still think Billy moves him.

Jeff Passan (of Yahoo Sports)
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@JeffPassan

Jim Johnson trade was an obvious salary dump for Baltimore. Source said Orioles could be using money to pursue outfielder Nelson Cruz.


Previous 'Roiders have had a great history in Baltimore, eh?

"inside sources" saying buck wasn't happy at all about this

It's all about the 'allocation of resources'.

Got wrote:
terrible terrible move by the orioles.  but i guess Angelos saves money

How is it a terrible move to save 10 million dollars and having a terrrible player off the team.  I think I saw Jim Johnson in person totally self-destruct 4 times this off-season.  He cost us any chance of being in the playoffs. I almost feel that Buck should be let go for keep putting him out there.  Johnson is awful under pressure.  He is like Billy Cundiff.  Did people cry when Cundiff was let go?  He was making a lot less than Johnson.  Maybe the A's plan to turn him into a starter as he certainly isn't worth that much money as a subpar relief pitcher.

Got wrote:
"inside sources" saying buck wasn't happy at all about this

Buck sticks by his crappy veterans no matter what.  That is why we saw Brian Roberts in the line-up day after day without producing.  Or how Mark Reynolds kept playing third base for the O's.  DD has only one move to get bad players out of the line-up.  Unload them for nothing.

atomic wrote:

Got wrote:
terrible terrible move by the orioles.  but i guess Angelos saves money

How is it a terrible move to save 10 million dollars and having a terrrible player off the team.  I think I saw Jim Johnson in person totally self-destruct 4 times this off-season.  He cost us any chance of being in the playoffs. I almost feel that Buck should be let go for keep putting him out there.   Johnson is awful under pressure.  He is like Billy Cundiff.  Did people cry when Cundiff was let go?  He was making a lot less than Johnson.  Maybe the A's plan to turn him into a starter as he certainly isn't worth that much money as a subpar relief pitcher.

I have to say I'm with Atomic on this one.  So telling what would happen this year, and he was a player in the O's not making the playoffs (of course, the offense could have also stepped up for many many games).

If your budget really is $100M is difficult to justify giving 10% or more of that to your closer.

vansmack wrote:
Anyhow, Jemile Weeks is not your answer at 2B.

She's also horrible on Numbers Never Lie or whatever that PTI ripoff is she's on.

Per Roch at MASN -

Next year, they will have five different tiers of tickets for their 81 home games - six "value" games, 49 "classic", seven "select", 14 "prime" and five "elite," which will bring the highest cost. More than half the teams in the majors half have implemented this system. It's trendy.

The six value dates are April 14-16 versus the Rays and Sept. 15-17 versus the Blue Jays. The elite dates are the March 31 season opener against the Red Sox, July 12 versus the Yankees, Aug. 9 versus the Cardinals, Sept. 13 versus the Yankees and Sept. 20 versus the Red Sox.

Overall, the price of tickets for season plan holders will go up about 5 percent, the first increase since 2008 (some categories haven't increased in more than 10 years.)

I'm okay with the prices going up.  The Orioles have some of the cheapest prices of any games I've been to, and that includes Cleveland where they have 1/3 of the stadium roped off!