ORIOLES

hutch wrote:

atomic wrote:


I am pretty sure Cal Ripken and Nolan Ryan were on steroids.  Both in the hall of fame.  I think the punishment should be once you are out a season.  Second time for live.  I would blame the union for players being on Steroids.  Only congress getting involved made baseball start testing.  I don't like players being on steroids at all, I don't think it is fair to the clean players.  I would never take steroids.

well i'm just surprised to hear you say that about cal unless you're just saying that to get people riled up…..because he really tanked the last many many years…if he was on steroids you'd have thought he might have pulled a bonds where his numbers got better as he got older..but once he turned 35 or so he really declined..and arguably he was never the same after his greatest year in 1991…. unless you're saying he was taking steroids in the early 80s which is ludicrous i think… not to mention his body just didn't look like it.. i'd be the house cal was never used…. and there aren't that many players i would say that about..

Steroids are supposed to age you prematurely also it is supposed to help you to recover from injuries quickers.

atomic wrote:

hutch wrote:

atomic wrote:


I am pretty sure Cal Ripken and Nolan Ryan were on steroids.  Both in the hall of fame.  I think the punishment should be once you are out a season.  Second time for live.  I would blame the union for players being on Steroids.  Only congress getting involved made baseball start testing.  I don't like players being on steroids at all, I don't think it is fair to the clean players.  I would never take steroids.

well i'm just surprised to hear you say that about cal unless you're just saying that to get people riled up…..because he really tanked the last many many years…if he was on steroids you'd have thought he might have pulled a bonds where his numbers got better as he got older..but once he turned 35 or so he really declined..and arguably he was never the same after his greatest year in 1991…. unless you're saying he was taking steroids in the early 80s which is ludicrous i think… not to mention his body just didn't look like it.. i'd be the house cal was never used…. and there aren't that many players i would say that about..

Steroids are supposed to age you prematurely also it is supposed to help you to recover from injuries quickers.

i'm not convinced.. i'm sure steroids help prolong your level of performance..  you can look at many many sports and see that older athletes are doing better and better and i think its in part because they avail themselves to whatever they can.. a guy like clemens for example.. he was pitching great into i think almost his mid 40s!

but i do concede that some players' bodies break down seemingly out of nowhere and you wonder why and it does seem like it must have been roids or something.. a guy named garciaparra comes to mind..

i think the whole thing about steroids causing your body to break down is rather murky… i mean look at bonds… obviously the roids helped him maintain and even increase tremendous batspeed etc into older age when he should have been on the downslope..

Golfers and NASCAR drivers both seem to do very well in their 40's. Are they all on steroids too?

the point is let them do what they want as long as they don't do something against the laws of the United States in which case their problem is with the legal system

i dont want to sit around thinking "oh this year he did this" or he must have been on the roids.. i want to think they all did whatever they could and felt comfortable doing and whoever is best is best under those rules of the game…. the current scheme means some people cheat and some don't… and some get caught and some don't… i no longer really enjoy baseball because i have no idea who is "cheating" or not.. stop calling it cheating..let them do what they want and i'll be able to enjoy the play more… i mean was lifting weights cheating? players always are going to do what they can to play their best..its human nature and the economics of the game make it necessary……

grow up people.. i mean seriously grow the fuck up.. players are going to do what they can to play better….

i remember how everybody hated bonds so much.. picked on the guy so much.. and it tturned out they were all fucking doing the same thing! and i knew it but people wanted to make him responsible…. wake up people they are all doing it.. do you really think the jamaican runners who all of a sudden are the fastest people on earth are not doing it?

James wrote:
Golfers and NASCAR drivers both seem to do very well in their 40's. Are they all on steroids too?

ha ha.. of course there are sports where steroids would add nothing… like NASCAR….  we do remember a very bulked up tiger woods a few years ago….

but look at a guy like nadal in tennis…

look at the tour de france guys.. somebody just won the vuelta de espana cycling race and they can't find him to get the post race samples.. he's dissapeared!

look at the jamaican runners..

and it goes on and on and on..

James wrote:
Golfers and NASCAR drivers both seem to do very well in their 40's. Are they all on steroids too?

and its not just steroids.. there are blood transfusions.. human growth hormone and all these things i bet we don't even know about… .there are always going to be people trying to make their bodies stronger and betterr performing and get their hands on whatever they can..


just legalize it all and end the charade…. because you can't win.. you can't catch them all..you can't even catch most of them.. AROD was caught the second time because the doping firm or whatever's records came to MLB's attention and NOT because of testing which was ongonig through MLB… why didn't they catch him? cause these guys know how to mask their use.. some are better than others.. some know more.. have better doping consultants or whatever you want to call them..

James wrote:
Golfers and NASCAR drivers both seem to do very well in their 40's. Are they all on steroids too?

I don't think 'roid rage would be helpful in golf. 

1 game out of the 2nd wildcard - nail biting time

K8teebug wrote:
I do not think they are done.  Because I believe in Orioles Magic.  But they are killing me.

Great pair of games.  Maybe they aren't so done after all.

See?  Believing in Orioles Magic works.

K8teebug wrote:
See?  Believing in Orioles Magic works.

feel it happen

I found the 45 of the song at an antique store a few weeks ago.  In perfect condition.  I saw it as a good sign!

Looks like I'm going to four games next week.  Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday!

That's another record.  8 games total in September for me.

Orioles are 4-5 in their last nine games.  I still see little hope in them making the playoffs as it seems every hitter has been hitting poorly for months… Well except Valencia. 

I believe in Orioles Magic.  And that is also the sign I'll be taking to the games.

Are you still planning on taking the sign?

K8teebug wrote:
I believe in Orioles Magic.  And that is also the sign I'll be taking to the games.

I'm still taking the sign!  Even if they don't make the playoffs, I still believe…

And I'm a happy Orioles fan even if they don't.  Nothing like going to games at the end of September happy that they had a good season instead of all depressed like I did for 14 years.

They could still end up a .500 team. That's a good season?

K8teebug wrote:
I'm still taking the sign!  Even if they don't make the playoffs, I still believe…

And I'm a happy Orioles fan even if they don't.  Nothing like going to games at the end of September happy that they had a good season instead of all depressed like I did for 14 years.

K8teebug wrote:
I'm still taking the sign!  Even if they don't make the playoffs, I still believe…

And I'm a happy Orioles fan even if they don't.  Nothing like going to games at the end of September happy that they had a good season instead of all depressed like I did for 14 years.

The Season ended in August when JJ blew all those saves.  I haven't been to a game in September.  I have one game left that I have on Stubhub.  Hopefully a Red Sox fan takes it off my hands.  I think the problem with baseball is that it is just boring.  Without beer and a close game and lots of screaming fans it is pretty unbearable.  Last 3 games I went to were pretty bad loses.  Maybe going to too many games is my problem.  

It would be cool if we could get another sport in Baltimore.  Soccer would be good.  Baseball players are way overpaid for what they do.  What do they say? Baseball players are paid for what they have done in the past and Football players are paid for what they will do in the future.  

I think you went to too many games.

I went to five Nats games and one Orioles game this year. That's the most I've ever been to, and that feels like about my max. It helps that I was I different people with me for each game (well the husband-wife-daughter combination was the same for two games). It also helped that the Nats were 4-1 in games I attended (the loss being a ninth inning come from behind affair), and the O's were 1-0.

Almost all male professional athletes are grossly overpaid. And will always be so, unless the fans protest with non-attendance and nonviewing. Which won't happen, because we're a world full of blockheads.

atomic wrote:

K8teebug wrote:
I'm still taking the sign!  Even if they don't make the playoffs, I still believe…

And I'm a happy Orioles fan even if they don't.  Nothing like going to games at the end of September happy that they had a good season instead of all depressed like I did for 14 years.

The Season ended in August when JJ blew all those saves.  I haven't been to a game in September.  I have one game left that I have on Stubhub.  Hopefully a Red Sox fan takes it off my hands.  I think the problem with baseball is that it is just boring.  Without beer and a close game and lots of screaming fans it is pretty unbearable.  Last 3 games I went to were pretty bad loses.  Maybe going to too many games is my problem.  

It would be cool if we could get another sport in Baltimore.  Soccer would be good.  Baseball players are way overpaid for what they do.  What do they say? Baseball players are paid for what they have done in the past and Football players are paid for what they will do in the future.