The Pernice Brothers and the Tyde

Originally posted by markie:

Nothing in Britain is really British. Its a small island that got invaded a lot. Still some things are so quintessentially British you couldnt mistake them for anything else.
As Billy Bragg likes to say, the only thing the british really own is that little hyphen between "Anglo" and "Saxon."
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:



Please, give me anything from a Smiths song that relates to anything from American music or culture…Solo Moz doesn't count.
Paint a vulgur picture,

BPI, MTV BBC, please them, this was your life……

MTV is American.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:


my point is that maybe the smiths aren't as "english" as you make them out to be… they took influences from both english and american music and culture.

Please, give me anything from a Smiths song that relates to anything from American music or culture…Solo Moz doesn't count.
i'll get to back to you on that one once i finish my thesis on the smiths ;) (i'm talking out my ass, something thats done well around here)
These lyrics are about American girls.

British girls are all equally scrawny, with bad teeth. :)


Some girls are bigger than others
Some girls are bigger than others
Some girl's mothers are bigger than
Other girl's mothers


Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:


my point is that maybe the smiths aren't as "english" as you make them out to be… they took influences from both english and american music and culture.

Please, give me anything from a Smiths song that relates to anything from American music or culture…Solo Moz doesn't count.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
clearly you nothing
I know fine. They loved elvis for a start. Is Croquet really an British name are cucumbers a native British plant. I would guess at no.

Please go back and read my post.
Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
clearly you nothing
I know fine. They loved elvis for a start. Is Croquet really an British name are cucumbers a native British plant. I would guess at no.

Please go back and read my post.
i think it's nap time…
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
These lyrics are about American girls.

British girls are all equally scrawny,



Is your wife British?
Originally posted by markie:

Paint a vulgur picture,

BPI, MTV BBC, please them, this was your life……

MTV is American.
Girlfriend in a coma…clearly a song about the American epidemic of domestic violence. ;)
Originally posted by markie:

I am guessing they are not as a good as "a vicar in a tutu, he's not strange, he just wants to live his life this way"
so you like the sexually confused lyrics ok -

paraphrasing from Joe Pernice's Bum Leg - "I got this scar above my eye from the dirty little shit who tried to love me under the bridge"
I don't see her as scrawny, I see her as just right. She has the physical strength of five scrawny women.
And I know she'd never characterize herself as scrawny.


Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
These lyrics are about American girls.

British girls are all equally scrawny,

Is your wife British?
Originally posted by mankie:
Girlfriend in a coma…clearly a song about the American epidemic of domestic violence. ;)
Bigmouth Strikes Again is clearly about you and Markie.
The Queen is dead….another song about an American disgrace…homophobia.
Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by markie:
[qb]
"I got this scar above my eye from the dirty little shit who tried to love me under the bridge"
sounds familiar.


Under the iron bridge we kissed
And although I ended up with sore lips
It just wasn't like the old days anymore
No, it wasn't like those days
Am I still ill ?
Oh …
Am I still ill ?
Oh …
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by mankie:
Girlfriend in a coma…clearly a song about the American epidemic of domestic violence. ;)
Bigmouth Strikes Again is clearly about you and Markie.
Who happen to be both Brits….sorry, not what we were looking for, thank you for playing and we have some nice parting gifts for you.
Moz owes more to the Rat Pack than Dusty Springfield. He's a crooner and a greaser! Not some white R&B singer. Johnny Marr wouldn't have those licks if he didn't listen to rockabilly. Sure, the Smiths may not have sang about the US, but their music definitely came from over here.
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
Moz owes more to the Rat Pack than Dusty Springfield. He's a crooner and a greaser! Not some white R&B singer. Johnny Marr wouldn't have those licks if he didn't listen to rockabilly. Sure, the Smiths may not have sang about the US, but their music definitely came from over here.
"Mr. Moore, this is office Dibble…put down the crack pipe and step away."
from all accounts Marr listened to everything including disco, the stuff that Moz hated.

I dont think the smiths sound very rockabilly though. Musical influences have been traded across the Atlantic since the Beatles. But the smiths dont sound at all American or interested in America.
Markie…did you know Paul Heaton was influenced by Bruce Springsteen and the Grateful Dead? ;)

Evidently Mike Scott was a huge Bon Jovi fan.
The Smiths were the definitive British indie-rock band of the '80s, marking the end of synth-driven New Wave and the beginning of the guitar-rock that dominated English rock into the '90s. Sonically, the group was indebted to the British Invasion, crafting ringing, melodic three-minute pop singles, even for their album tracks. But their scope was far broader than that of a revivalist band. The group's core members, vocalist Morrissey and guitarist Johnny Marr, were obsessive rock fans inspired by the D.I.Y. ethics of punk, but they also had a fondness girl groups, pop and rockabilly.
Yeh, Shakespeare's Sister – definitely doesn't owe a thing to American music.

I thought if you had an acoustic guitar it meant that you were an American singer?