The Pernice Brothers and the Tyde

Originally posted by markie:
Musical influences have been traded across the Atlantic since the Beatles.

and before then, even

Originally posted by markie:
But the smiths dont sound at all American or interested in America.

I agree, they are very english indeed

Originally posted by thirsty moore:
Yeh, Shakespeare's Sister – definitely doesn't owe a thing to American music.

I thought if you had an acoustic guitar it meant that you were an protest singer?

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reflecting on what started all of this i would like to add the following thoughts…

on first listen the Pernice Brothers record really grabbed my attention and stirred the soul. and as enjoy it even more with each listen.

on first listen the turin brakes record my it was a bit dull and didn't really grab my attention. it's not horrible and i can see the appeal and with a few more listens it might grow on me. it's just not as stunning as the Pernice Brothers.

will mankie have the same reation as i to either of these records? probably not because if we all had the same reaction to things it would be a dull place to exist.

some interesting reading from the press release and liner notes written by Morrissey from the new record "Under the Influence: Morrissey"

Press Release

DMC, the company behind Back To Mine, the unparalleled compilation series that invites itself into the homes of dance musicâ??s most respected artists, is about to unleash a new series of compilations entitled Under The Influence.

Under The Influence draws on the inspirations and all time loves of the worldâ??s greatest recording artists. Legendary Smithâ??s front man Morrissey compiles the first in this unique series and his choice of material is as wildly eclectic and inspirational as one would hope for.

Morrisseyâ??s chosen artists, as he explains in his extensive and highly entertaining sleeve notes "conjure an atmosphere and a special standard because they were (or are) true pop artists. The mere sound of their names is as powerful as their work, so that we only need to hear that name in order to glide into a half-dream state".

The album kicks off with The Sundown Playboysâ?? â??Saturday Nite Specialâ??, an obscure Cajun track sung in Acadian French.  Morrissey first heard the song in 1972 and despite not understanding a word of it, itâ??s curious vocal melody stayed with him. A handful of other curiosities also feature on the album from Jaybee Weston, Charlie Feathers, Nat Couty and Jimmy Radcliff, artists whom Morrissey professes to knowing little about but "the happiness these songs give me seems now to be everlasting â?? even if this is music played with a lop-sided grinâ?¦"

A teenage obsession with The New York Dolls prompts the inclusion of â??Trashâ?? as track two. To 13 year old Morrissey, The New York Dolls "meant one thing: trouble" and â??Trashâ?? he recalls reminds him "of â??All Grown Upâ?? by The Crystals, and of John Garfieldâ??s far-away gaze in the film â??Saturdayâ??s Childrenâ?? (1940)." It was "a fantastic achievement for five boys who otherwise would have ended up in hotel catering, or amongst the heroined dead". Additional te enfaves T Rex â?? "the sound of late 1960â??s Nottinghill bed sits" - and Sparks also feature contributing 'Great Horse' and 'Arts And Crafts Spectacular' respectively.



Nico, whose "voice equaled the sound of a body being thrown out of a window â?? entirely without hope, of this world, or the next or the previous" caught Morrissey attention early on, with â??All That Is My Ownâ?? the designated track here. Making up the albums remaining female contingent are Patti Smith with her debut release 'Hey Joe', Diana Dors â??So Little Timeâ?? and â??Breaking The Rulesâ?? by Ludus. Bringing the album to a close is a prophetic 'Death' from Klaus Nomi.

1. THE SUNDOWN PLAYBOYS â?? Saturday Nite Special
2. THE NEW YORK DOLLS â?? Trash
3. NAT COUTY â?? Woodpecker Rock
4. DIANA DORS â?? So Little Time
5. LUDUS â?? Breaking The R ules
6. CHARLIE FEATHERS â?? One Hand Loose
7. TYRANNOSAURUS REX â?? Great Horse
8. J IMMY RADCLIFF â?? (There Goes ) The Forgotten Man
9. JAYB EE WASDEN â?? De Castrow
10. RAMONES â?? Judy Is A Punk
11. S PAR KS â?? Arts And Crafts Spectacular
12. THE CATS â?? Swan Lake
13. NICO â?? All That Is My Own
14. PATTI SMITH â?? Hey Joe
15. KLAUS NOMI â?? Death


Morrissey's Liner Notes

So I went in B&N on Saturday to give a listen to the Pernice brothers….I hear a heavy Natalie Merchant/Sixpence none the richer influence in their work… ;) Not really, It's not bad, but something I would probably get bored of in a short time. They reminded me of Thunderclap Newman/Tremoloes, which isn't a put down by the way. If I ever see one of their albums in a used cd place I'd probably pick it up, but it's not a $17 investment for me.

Originally posted by mankie:
So I went in B&N on Saturday to give a listen to the Pernice brothers….I hear a heavy Natalie Merchant/Sixpence none the richer influence in their work… ;) Not really, It's not bad, but something I would probably get bored of in a short time. They reminded me of Thunderclap Newman/Tremoloes, which isn't a put down by the way. If I ever see one of their albums in a used cd place I'd probably pick it up, but it's not a $17 investment for me.

you didnt listen to Turin Brakes by chance did you?

I picked up their previous effort for a buck at CD Game Exchange. I don't know who the idiot is that prices such great aibums for a buck, but I won't complain.

Originally posted by mankie:
So I went in B&N on Saturday to give a listen to the Pernice brothers….I hear a heavy Natalie Merchant/Sixpence none the richer influence in their work… ;) Not really, It's not bad, but something I would probably get bored of in a short time. They reminded me of Thunderclap Newman/Tremoloes, which isn't a put down by the way. If I ever see one of their albums in a used cd place I'd probably pick it up, but it's not a $17 investment for me.

Oh I wont say I told you so, Oh fuck it, I will.

NAH, Nah,ner nah. I told you so.

shame you didnt listen to Turin Brakes to say they just sounded like space.

Originally posted by mankie:
the Pernice brothers….not bad, but something I would probably get bored of in a short time

probably more of a commentary on your attention span than the music ;)

Originally posted by Celeste:

Originally posted by mankie:
the Pernice brothers….not bad, but something I would probably get bored of in a short time

probably more of a commentary on your attention span than the music ;)

I love you too honey! ;)

The tyde live on KEXP right now.

They weren't too bad. I'm not crazy about the singer's voice. Definitely not in the same league as the Pernice Brothers. The drummer is also in Velvet Crush, which is cool.

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
They weren't too bad. I'm not crazy about the singer's voice. Definitely not in the same league as the Pernice Brothers. The drummer is also in Velvet Crush, which is cool.

well i'll have to check em when they play with nada surf… ric is the cool drummer dude

Pernice Brothers are playing Asheville, NC on 9/16 and baltimore 9/18 and in VT on 9/20

which leaves 9/17 and 9/19. since 9/17 is open mike at iota, and 9/19 is booked, iota is out.

one can now only hope the black cat books them.

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Pernice Brothers are playing Asheville, NC on 9/16 and baltimore 9/18 and in VT on 9/20

which leaves 9/17 and 9/19. since 9/17 is open mike at iota, and 9/19 is booked, iota is out.

one can now only hope the black cat books them.

9/17 Pernice Bros. in Charlottesville and 9/19 in Brooklyn. Looks like you gonna have to drive to Charm City or Charlottesville.

Speaking of Charm City, what happened to the World's Largest Trash Can?

Got an email from them the other day saying the will be doing another European tour in Oct/Nov and then touring the states again in Nov/Dec. So no doubt they will be back in Dec.

Still, the Baltimore show may be worth it because Peter Bruntnell is opening. I think it's his first tour of the States.

Got this from a big fan: Oddly enough, this was a hugely disappointing show.

OK, so Joe and the gang were jetlagged from a flight from Ireland, so I
wasn't expecting flying leg splits or anything. In fact, I thought it
might lead to a bit of humorous dialogue from Joe about how out of it
he
felt or something. Hell, this was apparently part of his honeymoon
(?), so
I figured he'd have something funny to say during the show.

But, what happened was…there were maybe 40-50 people at the venue,
and
their openers, our very own Kahoots, put on possibly the best set of
their
~ 4 year career (they're generally just a pretty good indy rock band by
any
kind of national standards). Despite the jetlag, the P'Bros. seemed OK
before the show…Kathy and I cornered Peyton Pinkerton and Thom
Monahan. Peyton insisted on buying me a drink when he found out I was
a
New Radiant Storm King fan (aside to NRSK fans–new album being
recorded as
we speak!!). *Really* nice guy. OK, this is starting out good.

By the time they took the stage, apparently, Joe (and maybe Thom) were
completely bummed at the size of the crowd, since they basically
skulked
onto the stage and had practically *nothing* to say to the audience for
their entire ~ 50 minute set (aside to Todd R: yep, no 2 hour show
here). The only one of them who seemed "on" was the drummer
replacement
fella–and like I said, that would be OK given the jetlag and that, but
Joe
did *nothing* to try to draw in the crowd. They couldn't *wait* to get
offstage. Those of us who knew *any* of the tunes were calling them
out,
going fekkin' nuts trying to inject some energy into the band
and…nothing. Anybody who didn't know the band ended up against the
back
wall and bar asking themselves, 'what do those people up front see in
this
band'? I think just having rocked out to Kahoots unexpectedly stellar
set
may have left them exceptionally nonplussed.

After the show (no encore offered nor sought), I tried to catch the
band
and say "thanks for coming to the Vineyard", and I got nothing but a
surly
look from Joe.

Not sure what they wanted–this was an OK crowd for a Wednesday night
on
the Vineyard. Had they put out a gossamer/rockin' set, they would have
gained a number of newbie converted fans for life (the Oranges Band had
quite a few converts here last month). As for its size, in the cold
light
of day, this was maybe only ~ 30 ppl less than the crowd at the
Paradise in
Boston a month ago, when the band was *on* despite lack of Laura Stein
and
drummer and Bob Pernice, just like last Wednesday. Back then, notably,
Joe
was particularly engaging and charismatic and very funny between songs.

Even for the Paradise show, though, it wasn't quite as energized as I'd
have expected. Maybe the replacement players had something to do with
it
(although the drummer and the keyboard/guitar guy I thought played
excellently). Or maybe this just isn't that good a live band. Look, I
*love* them basically especially recorded–nothing has shaken my
opinion in
*The World Won't End* being the best record of 2001, and *Yours Mine
and
Ours* is going to score very high in my best of this year–but if
they're
trying to consolidate a large indy following with their touring, I
don't
know that they have the energy and intangibles to pull it off.

Whatever.

Their show at Iota a couple of months ago was one of the best of the year. Period.