Originally posted by Rhett Miller:You finally said something that I can agree with
The Strokes and Stripes are just as shitty to me as Phish is. So it's really all subjective.
Originally posted by Mobius:
That's why I said indie "style" instead of indie. I really don't what indie is, but I'd say, other than technically, brmc, white stripes and the strokes still "feel" indie (of course, i haven't heard the new brmc or strokes so that's an assumption). each band still lives in its own universe despite big label support. you could say that also makes a band like phish indie, and that's probably true- just not indie rock, more like indie shit.
Is Justin over 21?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:i thought you were being technical? now you are being subjective? hmmm, i think that makes Rhett pretty "indie"
The Strokes and Stripes are just as shitty to me as Phish is. So it's really all subjective.
Originally posted by Mobius:what a load of crap
That's why I said indie "style" instead of indie. I really don't what indie is, but I'd say, other than technically, brmc, white stripes and the strokes still "feel" indie …each band still lives in its own universe despite big label support…
[rhett]Only alt.country bands that play at iota are truly indie. The rest of the 'indie' crap is flavor-of-the-week mass market drivel that is being force-fed to you sheep waiting at the trough of commercialized coolness.[/rhett]
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:everyone quit putting the Strokes and the White Stripes in the same category. They sound NOTHING alike, arent on the same label, and just because they played a FEW shows together and the same group of truck driver hat hipsters and trendy college/high school kids listen to them, does not mean they need to be mentioned in the same breath (unless you wanna say you hate them both, i suppose)
The Strokes and Stripes are just as shitty to me as Phish is. So it's really all subjective.
ha ha…
seriously, though, we can all admit that the term "indie" doesn't really mean "indie" anymore…same thing for movies…once you have to put the word "style" after a descriptor, that kinda signals that your term has been diluted…
now Joe Pernice…he's indie
seriously, though, we can all admit that the term "indie" doesn't really mean "indie" anymore…same thing for movies…once you have to put the word "style" after a descriptor, that kinda signals that your term has been diluted…
now Joe Pernice…he's indie
Originally posted by bags:
bags, just remember, if it was Rhett's cd collection it wouldn't be mainstream…it would be alt-country. ;)
DAMN you are tough, Rhett. Remind me not to show you my cd collection; many of the bands can be found on Allmusicguide. What a mainstream loser I am.
Yeah it's been diluted, but mostly across the board we understand what it means. So who cares, because that's all that really matters when you're trying to communicate a thought, no? That you communicate it in such a way as to achieve a mutual understanding?
In my opinion, indie rock or pop is definitely a particular style. When someone describes a band that way, I feel like I have some sense of where they're coming from.
In my opinion, indie rock or pop is definitely a particular style. When someone describes a band that way, I feel like I have some sense of where they're coming from.
Originally posted by Celeste:
ha ha…
seriously, though, we can all admit that the term "indie" doesn't really mean "indie" anymore…same thing for movies…once you have to put the word "style" after a descriptor, that kinda signals that your term has been diluted…
now Joe Pernice…he's indie
the strokes and the white stripes were both signed to small indie labels, initially, where they gained their indie cred. But when someone says indie rock or indie pop to me, it makes me think of types of music not what record labels a band maybe on. The term has transcended its original meaning.
Hmmm, I'm not so familiar with that whole alt.country thing. Is there an indie branch to that as well?? ;)
I think Wilco is pretty Indie, i mean, didnt they BUY their own record back from the label so they could release it on an independant label?
thats so indie, its unreal…..they payed like half a million dollars to be indie.
thats so indie, its unreal…..they payed like half a million dollars to be indie.
Originally posted by Celeste:yeah, he is on subpop, right? Do you think if he sold a half a million albums he would stay on Subpop?
now Joe Pernice…he's indie
Originally posted by sonickteam2:Yeah, Sire and Warner were pretty great indie labels.
I think Wilco is pretty Indie.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:Probably not. But if he went major, Rhett would resort to the old "I like his earlier stuff much better" claim.
Originally posted by Celeste:yeah, he is on subpop, right? Do you think if he sold a half a million albums he would stay on Subpop?
now Joe Pernice…he's indie
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:Nope, he'd graduate to alt-country. ;)
Originally posted by Celeste:yeah, he is on subpop, right? Do you think if he sold a half a million albums he would stay on Subpop?
now Joe Pernice…he's indie
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:my point exactly
Originally posted by sonickteam2:Yeah, Sire and Warner were pretty great indie labels.
I think Wilco is pretty Indie.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:They got their record back from one Warner label and then sold it to another Warner label.
I think Wilco is pretty Indie, i mean, didnt they BUY their own record back from the label so they could release it on an independant label?
thats so indie, its unreal…..they payed like half a million dollars to be indie.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
They got their record back from one Warner label and then sold it to another Warner label.i thought YTF was on Nonesuch Records, are they owned by Warner? i just remember the article on how Wilco was "suddenly Indie" and how i wished i had like them from the beginning…. haha
Nonesuch is distributed by Warner.
Originally posted by Member 656:wilco are liars AND hipsters…piss on them.
Nonesuch is distributed by Warner.
oh wait…positivity…….uh, I liked the Wilco show i was at this summer, the music was VERY VERY good. It was quite catchy and better than I thought it was going to be. I was thinking "man, i sure am having fun at a Wilco concert!!!" and then, Fountains of Wayne finished and we left , cause i didnt really wanna stay til WIlco came onstage….