Is Justin over 21?

it should also be noted that bragg and co were merely adding music to woody gutherie songs… without woody gutherie there might not have ever been a billy bragg.
but without Billy Bragg I would never have heard of woody.

And as for Thirsty, Billy Bragg was a well established artist who had just done one of his best works before he met wilco. Wilco were relatively unkonown. Ahh the good old days.
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
That's a great song. Yes, A.M. is old. It's their first album. It's a shame people judge Wilco on their collaboration with Bragg.

Say, how about I start judging Bragg solely on his collaboration with Wilco?
Just to clarify, I didn't judge Wilco on the Guthrie/Bragg stuff on *purpose* – I didn't know Wilco five years ago, because (as Rhett will likely point out) I'm just a sheep-like poseur that finds out about music once they've hit a certain NME/Pitchfork critical mass.

I'm just as disappointed to see Bragg put out less than stellar material.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
great wilco review for the non sheep
That's awesome.

Of course, reading a review written by SOMEONE ELSE, no less, shows we're both just sheep at heart.

I like this lead in: "Instead I couldâ??ve bought two large pizzas, 11 crunchy tacos, 15 Pepsi-colas, and a side-order of Love, which is now sold at all Wal-marts."

But before anyone else picks a bone with me, I might like early Wilco. Let me see if I can find any review online.

:D
Actually, I would venture that Wilco was as popular as Billy Bragg in the US when the first Mermaid Avenue album came out. They already had two relatively successful albums out.

Wilco headlined at the old 9:30 club on their first tour (I was there, great show), and were headlining venues the size of the new 9:30 club on their second tour. (I was not in the area, so can't say for sure if they headlined at the 9:30 that tour.)

Of course, if your sphere of music revolves around Britpop/modern rock, they probably made very little impact on your musical map. But then again, current bands like OAR, Robert Randolph, and Guster, who all sell out the 9:30 Club, are probably relatively unknown to the typical Billy Bragg fan.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
OAR, Robert Randolph, and Guster, who all sell out the 9:30 Club, are probably relatively unknown to the typical Billy Bragg fan.
You hit the nail on the head there. Am I missing out?
Personally, my order of favorites for Wilco are:

1. Being There
2. Summerteeth
3. AM
4. YHF
5. Mermaid Ave 2
6. Mermaid Ave 1

AM was straight up alt-country

Being There added a Stones-y+70's radio feel

Summerteeth was pretty pop

YHF had a few cool songs, but left me a bit cold

The Mermaid Avenue albums were hit and miss. I thought the Wilco songs were better than the Bragg songs, so I don't see how one can blame Bragg's troubles on having to work with Wilco. Plus, as Kosmo said, they were both restricted to only writing the music to Guthrie lyrics.
I though Woddy Guthrie was sort of a household name. I mean he did write "This Land is Your Land", which was required singing in American elementary schools
I don't like OAR or Guster at all.

Robert Randolph seems to be talented, but not my cup of tea.

I guess the Dandy Warhols are pretty big in England/Europe? I hadn't heard of them until I heard the were playing Bumbershoot a couple of months ago. So we all have holes in our musical knowledge…


Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
OAR, Robert Randolph, and Guster, who all sell out the 9:30 Club, are probably relatively unknown to the typical Billy Bragg fan.
You hit the nail on the head there. Am I missing out?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
American elementary schools
believe it or not there are 6billion people alive today who did not go to one of them.

Of those that did, what percent know woody wrote it?
Who's Afraid of Justin Timberlake?

http://slate.msn.com/id/2087321/

This ties into both the thread topic and Wilco, as they are mentioned in the article.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:

I guess the Dandy Warhols are pretty big in England/Europe?
they were big one hit wonders until the release of thier third album. The second album had the hilarious, I never thought you'd be a junkie, (because heroin is so passe).<not if you were the last junkie on earth>.

Bohemian like you on their third album got used in a car advert in the UK and that has catapaulted them into the spotlight.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:

Bohemian like you on their third album got used in a car advert in the UK and that has catapaulted them into the spotlight.
I thought it was for Vodafone (Or Orange)?

Godless was used in a Nissan commercial.

Their music has also been in Michelob and Verizon spots.
120 minutes used to play dandy's "tv theme song" pretty regularly when the first album came out way back when. then, "last junkie on earth" got alot of radio airplay, at least on the stations i listened to in college. maybe the mid-90s were radio's last hurrah.
Is Guster going to sell out?

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
But then again, current bands like OAR, Robert Randolph, and Guster, who all sell out the 9:30 Club, are probably relatively unknown to the typical Billy Bragg fan.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Billy Bragg was a well established artist who had just done one of his best works before he met wilco. Wilco were relatively unkonown. Ahh the good old days.
not exactly, in the states…people knew them
Originally posted by bags:
Is Guster going to sell out?
probably. . .i believe they have in the past.
Originally posted by bags:
Is Guster going to sell out?

Yeah most likely. They are playing a show at GWU next week for students only with Jason Mraz and THAT is almost sold out. Last time Guster played 9:30 I believe it sold out shortly into their set? But I may be mistaken…

-z
Did anyone look at the program they were selling at the Sex Pistols show?

They had a faux ad in there for 'Billy Blagg and the Jokes' The catch line was "Why write real songs when you can simply sloganeer?" or something to that effect.