BREAK UP THE F-ING NATIONALS

Did they switch the pitching rotation? I thought Edwin Jackson was the last one was after Jordan Zimmerman…. I might have lost my head for a second…

Werth is supposed to be back in August? Word is Drew Storen could be back first week of August? Hope Ian Desmond can come back soon, looked like he was ready to bat last night!

Coming back from the break they changed the rotation around a bit.

Werth and Storen should both be back by early august.

Desmond pinch ran last night, so he couldn't be too far off.

He was up to bat in the 10th too I believe, they walked him.

So I think now it goes Stras, Gio, Detwiler, Jackson, Zimmerman? Did I totally botch that…

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
He was up to bat in the 10th too I believe, they walked him.

So I think now it goes Stras, Gio, Detwiler, Jackson, Zimmerman? Did I totally botch that…

Well if you start first game back from the break it's gone:

Zimmerman, Gonzales, Strasburg, Jackson, Detwieler

Even with Strasburg hanging it up early, I'm feeling pretty good about this rotation.  Johnson has been pulling starters early almost everynight, usually after 6.  They should all be pretty fresh when it comes to crunch time. 

Is it not unheard of for teams to use a 4 man rotation in the post season?

Plus, Lannan is probably going to start one of the games on Saturday to show he can maybe fill in when Strasburg is shut down.

stevewizzle wrote:

it's just a peice on harper, but it compares him and trout indirectly.

Here's that piece you predicted ;)

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/32421/middle-relief-rating-the-rookie-eras

stevewizzle wrote:

hutch wrote:
Trout had four hits!!!!!!!!!!

all of them in garbage time.

Yes, a lead off single to start the game and a 2-run HR in a 3-0 game in second inning are garbage time hits.  I completely agree.

But I will correct one thing.  He had 4 more hits.

I was on vacation this weekend so I couldn't give you the Mike Trout updates: Trout's parents, brother and girlfriend all had tickets to the game on Friday. But Jeter, through a clubhouse attendant, offered up his suite for the series opener to give them a more comfortable venue.  Jeter also picked up the tab for the refreshments.

vansmack wrote:

stevewizzle wrote:

hutch wrote:
Trout had four hits!!!!!!!!!!

all of them in garbage time.

Yes, a lead off single to start the game and a 2-run HR in a 3-0 game in second inning are garbage time hits.  I completely agree.

two hits off a rookie pitcher with a 10+ era.  we can go ahead and asterik yet another day for mr. trout.

if you want a real comparison, look at what each player has done in extra innings.  Trout?  one INFIELD single for the whole year.  Harper? walk off hits, game-tying triples, the list goes on.  this is why the nats are in first place and it'll stay that way, and the angels are 5.5 back and will be playing for the wild-card if they are lucky.

vansmack wrote:

I was on vacation this weekend so I couldn't give you the Mike Trout updates: Trout's parents, brother and girlfriend all had tickets to the game on Friday. But Jeter, through a clubhouse attendant, offered up his suite for the series opener to give them a more comfortable venue.  Jeter also picked up the tab for the refreshments.

Thank you. I can sleep well now.

four man rotation is normal for postseason, but Jackson is mediocre.

chaz wrote:

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
He was up to bat in the 10th too I believe, they walked him.

So I think now it goes Stras, Gio, Detwiler, Jackson, Zimmerman? Did I totally botch that…

Well if you start first game back from the break it's gone:

Zimmerman, Gonzales, Strasburg, Jackson, Detwieler

Even with Strasburg hanging it up early, I'm feeling pretty good about this rotation.  Johnson has been pulling starters early almost everynight, usually after 6.  They should all be pretty fresh when it comes to crunch time. 

Is it not unheard of for teams to use a 4 man rotation in the post season?

vansmack wrote:
I was on vacation this weekend so I couldn't give you the Mike Trout updates: Trout's parents, brother and girlfriend all had tickets to the game on Friday. But Jeter, through a clubhouse attendant, offered up his suite for the series opener to give them a more comfortable venue.  Jeter also picked up the tab for the refreshments.

and a gift bag for the girlfriend?  it's standard rookie hazing to get cuckolded by jeter, right?

James wrote:
four man rotation is normal for postseason, but Jackson is mediocre.

chaz wrote:

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
He was up to bat in the 10th too I believe, they walked him.

So I think now it goes Stras, Gio, Detwiler, Jackson, Zimmerman? Did I totally botch that…

Well if you start first game back from the break it's gone:

Zimmerman, Gonzales, Strasburg, Jackson, Detwieler

Even with Strasburg hanging it up early, I'm feeling pretty good about this rotation.  Johnson has been pulling starters early almost everynight, usually after 6.  They should all be pretty fresh when it comes to crunch time. 

Is it not unheard of for teams to use a 4 man rotation in the post season?

four man rotation is a given.  three man rotation isn't unheard of. just my opinion, but y'all are crazy if you think the inning cap will stop stras from going in the post-season…

stevewizzle wrote:

James wrote:
four man rotation is normal for postseason, but Jackson is mediocre.

chaz wrote:

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
He was up to bat in the 10th too I believe, they walked him.

So I think now it goes Stras, Gio, Detwiler, Jackson, Zimmerman? Did I totally botch that…

Well if you start first game back from the break it's gone:

Zimmerman, Gonzales, Strasburg, Jackson, Detwieler

Even with Strasburg hanging it up early, I'm feeling pretty good about this rotation.  Johnson has been pulling starters early almost everynight, usually after 6.  They should all be pretty fresh when it comes to crunch time. 

Is it not unheard of for teams to use a 4 man rotation in the post season?

four man rotation is a given.  three man rotation isn't unheard of. just my opinion, but y'all are crazy if you think the inning cap will stop stras from going in the post-season…

If I were DJ, I'd see how Lannan pitches on Saturday.  If it's remotely decent, I'd put Strasburg on the DL (shut him down now) and give Lannan the ball in his place.  Give him (Strasburg) a nice 6 week break and bring him back early September.  Give him that month to get his groove back and ride him straight through the post-season.

Probably a good thing I'm not DJ as I have no idea how that would effect him.

stevewizzle wrote:
four man rotation is a given.  three man rotation isn't unheard of. just my opinion, but y'all are crazy if you think the inning cap will stop stras from going in the post-season…

It's not his decision.  He will get shut down.

eros wrote:

stevewizzle wrote:
four man rotation is a given.  three man rotation isn't unheard of. just my opinion, but y'all are crazy if you think the inning cap will stop stras from going in the post-season…

It's not his decision.  He will get shut down.

EXACTLY. and the decision has been made.. once it made you can't change it because you're in the hunt.. if it was made then it was made because that was what was determined best for STRASBURG and you can't change that…

i like the idea of shutting down stras now, bringing him back later.  and while i was busy making an ass of myself, this was reported:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8180037/washington-nationals-plan-shut-all-star-stephen-strasburg

stevewizzle wrote:

vansmack wrote:

stevewizzle wrote:

hutch wrote:
Trout had four hits!!!!!!!!!!

all of them in garbage time.

Yes, a lead off single to start the game and a 2-run HR in a 3-0 game in second inning are garbage time hits.  I completely agree.

two hits off a rookie pitcher with a 10+ era.  we can go ahead and asterik yet another day for mr. trout.

if you want a real comparison, look at what each player has done in extra innings.  Trout?  one INFIELD single for the whole year.  Harper? walk off hits, game-tying triples, the list goes on.  this is why the nats are in first place and it'll stay that way, and the angels are 5.5 back and will be playing for the wild-card if they are lucky.

Bong.

Anyone else ready for Drew Storen to come back? Seeing Clip's last 2 efforts have worried me, he was solid for a good amount of time and he did pull off the 2 saves, but he's been out of character from his recent run in the last 2… Hoping pushing him back to holder will be good for him with Drew taking the closing position back.

Hope we can S word the useless bastard Mets today. YAY EARLY GAMES!

more nats news: Drew Storen activated

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/post/rick-ankiel-designated-for-assignment-drew-storen-activated-ian-desmond-out-again/2012/07/19/gJQAkaknvW_blog.html

i'm not worried about clip.  two-trick pitchers (fastball/change) sometimes have these hiccups. i usually attribute it to other teams figuring something out.  last night? jumping on the first pitch.

but clip's stuff is NASTY.  he'll be fine.

Ugggghhhhh Davey was talking [yesterday before the game, or after the game on Sunday] about Des possibly needing surgery? But if he did he would be out for the rest of the season. Also said he's been playing most of the year with the strain as well. If he's played this well so far I say wait…. I hope he can come back soon :\ he's my fave.

stevewizzle wrote:
i like the idea of shutting down stras now, bringing him back later.  and while i was busy making an ass of myself, this was reported:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8180037/washington-nationals-plan-shut-all-star-stephen-strasburg

I don't see this happening. He'd basically need a second spring training if they shut him down for a long period of time and then brought him back, and I don't see that being a good thing for him or the team.