BREAK UP THE F-ING NATIONALS

vansmack wrote:
Don't worry Sweetcell, these are big companies that care about customer service and the happiness of their clients.  You should expect a full refund from the ticket company and MLB with interest very soon.  It's not like they have a monopoly and can do what they want - they face stiff competition and will do the right thing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_American_Association_of_Professional_Baseball
Denard Span and Dan Haren coming on board and reportedly nearing a deal to bring back LaRoche.  I'm liking the offseason thus far.
imbecile wrote:
Denard Span and Dan Haren coming on board and reportedly nearing a deal to bring back LaRoche.  I'm liking the offseason thus far.


Hoya and I have been talking offline about Haren.  Make sure he passes his physical before you get too excited.
vansmack wrote:
imbecile wrote:
Denard Span and Dan Haren coming on board and reportedly nearing a deal to bring back LaRoche.  I'm liking the offseason thus far.


Hoya and I have been talking offline about Haren.  Make sure he passes his physical before you get too excited.

Physical is on Thursday…but supposedly already passed on for another team.  At least that's what he says.
imbecile wrote:
Denard Span and Dan Haren coming on board and reportedly nearing a deal to bring back LaRoche.  I'm liking the offseason thus far.

Excited for Denard Span, not so psyched that we'll likely drop The Beast :\

I mostly like singing A-ha in his later at bats :\
chaz wrote:
Physical is on Thursday…but supposedly already passed on for another team.  At least that's what he says.


The Angels and Cubs had a deal done about two weeks ago swapping Marmol for Haren pending Haren's physical and Marmol waiving his no-trade clause.  It was tweeted that Marmol waived it by his agent.
Yeah, Haren's back issue does have me a bit concerned.  I really don't know what to make of the whole thing - I mean, he's rather durable (8 years running of atleast 30 starts), but it clearly affected him last year. 

So yeah, pending him passing the physical I'm excited at the prospect.
imbecile wrote:
Yeah, Haren's back issue does have me a bit concerned.  I really don't know what to make of the whole thing - I mean, he's rather durable (8 years running of atleast 30 starts), but it clearly affected him last year. 

So yeah, pending him passing the physical I'm excited at the prospect.


Keep an eye on his right hip too.  That may be he piece that worried the Cubs most.  If he's healthy (and I don't mean he passes his physical, but avoids the DL next season) he's a steal at $13m, and the Angels offered Haren a one-year deal with an option for a second last week, but he turned it down.  The money was apparently nowhere close to the Nationals' $13 million offered him, but if the team that knows him best was giving him an offer, that's a pretty good sign for your team.

Now that it looks like Jacoby Elsbury is available for trade, still like the Denard Span signing?
Ha, of course I'd rather have Ellsbury over Span, but I'm also a Sox fan, so I'm conflicted and not sure how both the Sox and Nationals could get better in a deal between them.

I think the Sox are going to want a lot for Ellsbury, not sure if Alex Meyer.. and say Anthony Rendon would've gotten it done.. or if Rizzo would've even considered letting Rendon go.  Ellsbury I believe has another arbitration year left, so you'd get two years minimum out of him, but he'd cost a lot more than Span who's solid, yet unspectacular.

Ellsbury also sandwiched two years pretty well lost to injury around an AL-MVP -like season so he'd be a bit of a risk to give up two good prospects for and then two arbitration years at 10 and 11 million per year (no idea what he'll get, just guessing).
Thank you for Burnett.  Bullpen was the glaring weakness last year in Anaheim and I LOVE a solid lefty reliever.
Bummed he's gone :( he did start to struggle towards the end of the year though.
I like Burnett, and that's a pretty decent deal at 2 yrs / $8m.  I think we can do almost as well at a much cheaper price though.  I thought Burnett was demanding something more like the Affeldt deal at 3 yrs / $18m.

Are the Angels just cycling through the A's mid-aughts rotation?  Is Zito next?
HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
Are the Angels just cycling through the A's mid-aughts rotation? 


You'd be a fool not to look at pitchers drafted by the A's.  How's Gio working out for you?

HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
thought Burnett was demanding something more like the Affeldt deal at 3 yrs / $18m.


He probably took a discount to live in a better place.  I believe there's an option as well for year 3.
Haren deal is official.
HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
Haren deal is official.


I really hope he bounces back.  He was so good to watch for so long.

Somebody want to help me decipher this:

"Zack is a curious guy, an intellectual, and he wanted to see what free agency is about. We respected that," Dipoto told Angels reporters. "I wish him the best. Zack is a good person, he works hard, and he's an outstanding pitcher. What he gets, he gets."
vansmack wrote:
HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
Haren deal is official.


I really hope he bounces back.  He was so good to watch for so long.

Somebody want to help me decipher this:

"Zack is a curious guy, an intellectual, and he wanted to see what free agency is about. We respected that," Dipoto told Angels reporters. "I wish him the best. Zack is a good person, he works hard, and he's an outstanding pitcher. What he gets, he gets."


GM as spurned lover.  Greinke to the Dodgers.
Shemp wrote:
GM as spurned lover.  Greinke to the Dodgers.


No surprise there.  Those were just some weird comments.  I think you're right - there was some respect for the Greinke the person in those comments.  Zack's always been a little crazy….
I think it's Dipoto having a little fun. "What he get's, he gets" is probably with a shrug and the thought "nobody is going to outbid the Dodgers, so no reason to be mad about it".

Hard to be upset about losing a pitcher to a team in the same town willing to spend so much on a pitcher who's been traded countless times in the past five years.
stevewizzle wrote:
Hard to be upset about losing a pitcher to a team in the same town willing to spend so much on a pitcher who's been traded countless times in the past five years.


My brother in law is a big Dodger fan and my only comment to him was "Glad we didn't spend the money."  That's not sour grapes either, I just never know what Arte Moreno is going to do and if he was going to spend $147 million over the next 6 years, I'd like to see it get the Halo's a mid-range starter and some bullpen help.