BREAK UP THE F-ING NATIONALS

vansmack wrote:
That's a clown question bro.

Those shoes were inappropriate for a rookie in his first all star game. Respect the game and it will respect you back.

One of the players in the home run derby was wearing the same gold cleets as well…. Is it just because he was a rookie that it's disrespectful?

vansmack wrote:
That's a clown question bro.

Those shoes were inappropriate for a rookie in his first all star game. Respect the game and it will respect you back.

"don't tag up and run hard on a long fly ball, respect the game!"

"don't wear gold cleats in an exhibition* game, respect the game!"

i guess this is the price you pay to be a superstar, a never-ending list of critiques.

worth noting: very cool that la russa (who normally i can't stand) went gio then stras behind cain. 

stevewizzle wrote:

vansmack wrote:
That's a clown question bro.

Those shoes were inappropriate for a rookie in his first all star game. Respect the game and it will respect you back.

"don't tag up and run hard on a long fly ball, respect the game!"

"don't wear gold cleats in an exhibition* game, respect the game!"

i guess this is the price you pay to be a superstar, a never-ending list of critiques.

Seriously.  I thought the shoes were ugly, but hey, he's free to wear them if he wants. 

Are those stupid Phiten necklaces that every baseball player seems to wear inappropriate?  What about giant gold chains? The armor that half the players march to plate wearing?  I think it's all looks like crap, but it's certainly not disrespectful to the game of baseball, it's just personal preference.

As for tagging up with an 8-0 lead.. whatever.  Do you honestly think that the American League lineup that was at the game is incapable of scoring 9 runs over a 5 inning span and winning?  That game was for home-field advantage in the world series.  On top of that, the one thing people generally agree to like about Bryce Harper is that he's an intense competitor and doesn't take any plays off; now you're going to fault him for it. 

Get over yourselves.  Call him a douche for his ugly shoes and make fun of him for his poor choice in cars and the fact that he lives in Pentagon City and shops in Georgetown when he's bored (yeah, I read the post article about him being "normal"), but your really stretching if you have an issue with him playing the game the way it's meant to be played.

I think the point is that you earn the right to wear ugly shoes and look like a douchebag.

Harper didn't even earn a spot on the all-star team, at least not with his play. Pay your dues, then you get to wear your douchey shoes.

There's no denying he's super-talented and has unlimited potential.  I just think he acts like a jerk too much.  And the 'he's a 19-year old kid' excuse doesn't cut it. 

His favorite teams are the Yankees and the Cowboys.  Just sayin'.   

Somehow I doubt Bryce Harper is worried about paying his dues to internet baseball experts.  The only people he needs to impress are his peers and his bosses.  And I've not heard one single negative word from any players or managers regarding any of this stuff everyone gets all huffy about.

Since he got called up he's said and done all the right things.

Five errors in 63 games. He needs to work on fielding.

chaz wrote:
Somehow I doubt Bryce Harper is worried about paying his dues to internet baseball experts.  The only people he needs to impress are his peers and his bosses.  And I've not heard one single negative word from any players or managers regarding any of this stuff everyone gets all huffy about.

Since he got called up he's said and done all the right things.

James wrote:
Five errors in 63 games. He needs to work on fielding.

chaz wrote:
Somehow I doubt Bryce Harper is worried about paying his dues to internet baseball experts.  The only people he needs to impress are his peers and his bosses.  And I've not heard one single negative word from any players or managers regarding any of this stuff everyone gets all huffy about.

Since he got called up he's said and done all the right things.

No shit…but obviously I'm referring to your expert opinion on his blatant disrespect to the institution of baseball.

That missed fly ball is left last night was cringe worthy.

chaz wrote:
That missed fly ball is left last night was cringe worthy.

It was.  I saw that vacant look come over his face when he was looking up and knew the shit was about to hit the fan.

How on earth was that ruled a single is what I want to know.  I'm not a professional paid by MLB to determine what is and isn't an error, but based on what I do know, I thought for sure that'd qualify.  Anyone have any insight?

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:

James wrote:
Looks like the Nats are winning home field advantage for the Wolrd Series.

Announcer (same one who referred to Jered Weaver and "Jeff" Weaver): There's a rumor that they're going to shut down Strasburg after 165 innings.

Other Announcer: It's more than a rumor. GM Rizzo has been adament about it.

First Announcer: Well if that's true, and they haven't told Strasburg, then that's just odd.


Where did they get this idiot announcer?

Stras was on 106.7 The Fan on Monday and they asked him about the inning restriction and he said that they have not talked to him about it. Also, Davey and Rizzo have both said "No one has said 160 innings". From what I understand, that's where Zimmerman was shut down last year, so I think the media has run with that. For the skipper AND the GM to say that that hasn't been said AND the pitcher I feel like…….the media is taking this number and throwing it out there based on what happened last year in almost the same situation…

Tim Mccarver, the announcer in question, is an absolute joke. Debating things he says at this point is not worth any of our time.  I use to hate Joe Buck as well, but given who he has to work with… I'm actually impressed how well he handles stupidity on-air.

The media has overlooked the fact that the inning limit, if it actually plays out, will result in all of 5 games lost where Strasburg pitches.  Given the deep rotation the Nats have… what do you think that results in?  A total net loss of one win? 

stevewizzle wrote:

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:

James wrote:
Looks like the Nats are winning home field advantage for the Wolrd Series.

Announcer (same one who referred to Jered Weaver and "Jeff" Weaver): There's a rumor that they're going to shut down Strasburg after 165 innings.

Other Announcer: It's more than a rumor. GM Rizzo has been adament about it.

First Announcer: Well if that's true, and they haven't told Strasburg, then that's just odd.


Where did they get this idiot announcer?

Stras was on 106.7 The Fan on Monday and they asked him about the inning restriction and he said that they have not talked to him about it. Also, Davey and Rizzo have both said "No one has said 160 innings". From what I understand, that's where Zimmerman was shut down last year, so I think the media has run with that. For the skipper AND the GM to say that that hasn't been said AND the pitcher I feel like…….the media is taking this number and throwing it out there based on what happened last year in almost the same situation…

Tim Mccarver, the announcer in question, is an absolute joke. Debating things he says at this point is not worth any of our time.  I use to hate Joe Buck as well, but given who he has to work with… I'm actually impressed how well he handles stupidity on-air.

The media has overlooked the fact that the inning limit, if it actually plays out, will result in all of 5 games lost where Strasburg pitches.  Given the deep rotation the Nats have… what do you think that results in?  A total net loss of one win? 

Assuming they get there, it's his post season availability that is the issue, not the home stretch of the regular season. 

bryce had a pretty poor game, but picking on his shoes as a sign of disrespect is a bit of a stretch.

baseball's a great game, but it could use more players with the kind of personality that reaches beyond the typical fan. i'd agree with anyone who says he didn't really deserve the all star nod, but hes already the kind of player who can do a lot for the sport. of course mlb will do whatever they can to get him on the national stage.

that said, the missed fly ball was pretty bad

What is so great about his personality?

hustle
talent
enthusiasm
confidence

But lots of players have these things. 

this topic is played out. 

i personally like the flashiness (aka brashness or douchiness or whatever you want to call it). i dont think he entirely backs it up yet, but i like his confidence and i liked seeing him pal around with chipper jones throughout last nights game. i think it speaks to the way he plays when even veterans and guys like cole hamels come around and praise him. all in all, he's just fun to watch because hes a talented kid having big league fun earlier than anyone expected.

that being said i wish i got to see trout play more often. if bryce is anywhere near that good when he hits 20 the nats will be in a good position for sure.

imbecile wrote:
How on earth was that ruled a single is what I want to know.  I'm not a professional paid by MLB to determine what is and isn't an error, but based on what I do know, I thought for sure that'd qualify.  Anyone have any insight?

a fielder not catching up to a ball (whether because of effort, lack of speed, losing the ball in the twilight, etc.) is never an error - the fielder would have to actually touch and misplay the ball in order to get an error.

The official scorer shall charge an outfielder with an error if such outfielder allows a fly ball to drop to the ground if, in the official scorer?s judgment, an outfielder at that position making ordinary effort would have caught such fly ball.

so the ball doesnt need to be touched, but its obviously a judgement call and the scorer gave bryce some pity or mercy and called it a hit.