BREAK UP THE F-ING NATIONALS

Nats DFA'd Rick Ankiel today.  On his birthday.
Meanwhile Gio is getting lit up.  Zimmerman already homered today.  Dude is red hot.
stevewizzle wrote:
if you want a real comparison, look at what each player has done in extra innings.


Yes, because one in every what, 15 games goes to extra innings?  Or we can just look at WAR.

stevewizzle wrote:
this is why the nats are in first place and it'll stay that way, and the angels are 5.5 back and will be playing for the wild-card if they are lucky.


Yes, the Nats are in first place because Bryce Harper is a stud and the Angels are in second because Mike Trout only gets hits against crappy pitching.  Not the depth of the pitching staffs or the talent in the rest of the division - those aren't important.  I said in the beginning of this thread that Nats had a really good chance of making the playoffs and I stand by that.  Nats fans should be very proud of what this team is doing and this thread exemplifies that.  But let's not get carried away - Mike Trout is having one of the top three greatest rookie season's of all time and potentially one of the top 25 seasons of all time.  That needs to be recognized, even by Nats fans caught up in Bryce Harper Mania.  We're looking at a potential MVP, Rookie of the Year, Gold Glove, Stolen Base Champion and batting average champion despite not playing the first 40 games.  Since I'm one of a few on this board who saw Freddy Lynn play, you're watching something you may only see once in your lifetime. 

I will say this though and you hit it right on the head - the one thing keeping me up at night is the thought of a one game playoff against Justin Verlander to win the Wild Card.  I still remember having to face Randy Johnson in 1995 to make the playoffs, and that was brutal.  I don't want to do it again.
HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
and a gift bag for the girlfriend?  it's standard rookie hazing to get cuckolded by jeter, right?


I loved everything about that article.  I hope half of it is true.
Gio's shortest outing of the season 3.1 innings, YEESH! This is painful. Fuckin RA Dickey.
I'm guessing you were maybe two years old during Lynn's rookie season?


vansmack wrote:
stevewizzle wrote:
if you want a real comparison, look at what each player has done in extra innings.


Yes, because one in every what, 15 games goes to extra innings?  Or we can just look at WAR.

stevewizzle wrote:
this is why the nats are in first place and it'll stay that way, and the angels are 5.5 back and will be playing for the wild-card if they are lucky.


Yes, the Nats are in first place because Bryce Harper is a stud and the Angels are in second because Mike Trout only gets hits against crappy pitching.  Not the depth of the pitching staffs or the talent in the rest of the division - those aren't important.  I said in the beginning of this thread that Nats had a really good chance of making the playoffs and I stand by that.  Nats fans should be very proud of what this team is doing and this thread exemplifies that.  But let's not get carried away - Mike Trout is having one of the top three greatest rookie season's of all time and potentially one of the top 25 seasons of all time.  That needs to be recognized, even by Nats fans caught up in Bryce Harper Mania.  We're looking at a potential MVP, Rookie of the Year, Gold Glove, Stolen Base Champion and batting average champion despite not playing the first 40 games.  Since I'm one of a few on this board who saw Freddy Lynn play, you're watching something you may only see once in your lifetime.   

I will say this though and you hit it right on the head - the one thing keeping me up at night is the thought of a one game playoff against Justin Verlander to win the Wild Card.  I still remember having to face Randy Johnson in 1995 to make the playoffs, and that was brutal.  I don't want to do it again.
James wrote:
I'm guessing you were maybe two years old during Lynn's rookie season?


You are correct.  I did not mean to imply that I saw him that rookie year, I meant play AT ALL which is why this is potentially a big deal.

My first sports memory was the 1979 World Series, but that should either be discussed in the Orioles thread, or perhaps not at all on this board.
vansmack wrote:
James wrote:
I'm guessing you were maybe two years old during Lynn's rookie season?


You are correct.  I did not mean to imply that I saw him that rookie year, I meant play AT ALL which is why this is potentially a big deal.

My first sports memory was the 1979 World Series, but that should either be discussed in the Orioles thread, or perhaps not at all on this board.


Some of us old geezers who remember 1979 would prefer the latter.
How can you guys work the internets. Whoa.
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
How can you guys work the internets. Whoa.


Well, we did invent it…
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Gio's shortest outing of the season 3.1 innings, YEESH! This is painful. Fuckin RA Dickey.

Looking at the box and Desmond has an AB in the 9th and Zimmerman has only 2 AB the whole game.  I'm worried he got hurt…..
who, zimmerman? i think davey just took him out because the game was basically out of reach and he wanted derosa to get some at bats before saturdays doubleheader.
COLLAPSE
As a Braves fan, the game yesterday was amazing!
James wrote:
COLLAPSE


trade em all
Glad to see Zim is shooting fire out of his eyes. Glad we didn't blow the lead yesterday… Bummer that was had to split the series. UGH.
best record in baseball (for a few hours)
Jayson Werth is less than 2 weeks from coming back according to reports…. Desi is on the 15 day DL, I heard an interview where he was talking about it taking 6 weeks for one of the other guys to come back, I forgot who he said though. He then joked saying "He is older than me though", I think by like a year or two hahaha. I can't wait to HOPEFULLY get a full healthy line up. If only our catchers could stay healthy :\ when is the trade deadline?
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Jayson Werth is less than 2 weeks from coming back according to reports…. Desi is on the 15 day DL, I heard an interview where he was talking about it taking 6 weeks for one of the other guys to come back, I forgot who he said though. He then joked saying "He is older than me though", I think by like a year or two hahaha. I can't wait to HOPEFULLY get a full healthy line up. If only our catchers could stay healthy :\ when is the trade deadline?


where does jayson werth bat when he's back?  he's an OBP guy who can swipe bases and create runs.  seems like the #2 slot really is where he belongs, which will bump harper from his spot he's started to get comfortable with.  there's no reason to mess with 3-4-5-6 (zim, morse, laroche, des) - i think harper and werth on the top of that line-up is one scary line-up.

trade deadline is July 31.  almost no chance Nat's make any moves.  catcher needs upgrades, but ramos is the future, and solano returning will be an upgrade if flores continues to struggle.
stevewizzle wrote:
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Jayson Werth is less than 2 weeks from coming back according to reports…. Desi is on the 15 day DL, I heard an interview where he was talking about it taking 6 weeks for one of the other guys to come back, I forgot who he said though. He then joked saying "He is older than me though", I think by like a year or two hahaha. I can't wait to HOPEFULLY get a full healthy line up. If only our catchers could stay healthy :\ when is the trade deadline?


where does jayson werth bat when he's back?  he's an OBP guy who can swipe bases and create runs.  seems like the #2 slot really is where he belongs, which will bump harper from his spot he's started to get comfortable with.  there's no reason to mess with 3-4-5-6 (zim, morse, laroche, des) - i think harper and werth on the top of that line-up is one scary line-up.

trade deadline is July 31.  almost no chance Nat's make any moves.  catcher needs upgrades, but ramos is the future, and solano returning will be an upgrade if flores continues to struggle.


trades can happen after the deadline, players just have to clear waivers first - I think we'll add some middle infield depth, but nothing that couldn't happen after the deadline.