BREAK UP THE F-ING NATIONALS

stevewizzle wrote:
trout vs. harper talk…

looks like only one of them will be playing in october this year.

Well played.

Why won't the Nats do this, especially with the playoffs looming. Haven't they played 10 or 11 extra inning games this year? AND 2 rain delayed games this week alone. Skins and Caps do it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/2012/08/23/b1377a08-ed69-11e1-a80b-9f898562d010_story.html

Because the Lerners are cheap fucking assholes and before they've been able to get the District council to bend over for everything on a whim. Skins and Caps do it because both are time-limited overtimes (except for playoffs).

reeling….

Last night has me a little panicked…. To see the bats as cold as they have been in this streak is insanely frustrating… They're getting jammed at every turn if they aren't striking out and it looks like Desi might not be at 100%. If they drop another one tonight maybe I'll be full blown panicked. I know Strasburg is only human, but seeing him allow 7 runs really irked me. Bummer the offense couldn't step up and help him out.

ever notice that often before pitchers have an injury or as the injury is happening- and is not yet noticed- they have an outing or two where they give up a lot of runs?


Rizzo should stick to the plan and shut him down. I would also do some MRIs etc just to make sure everything is copacetic.. If this had happened at the beginning of the year I wouldn't even think about it but his arm might be tired/strained whatever…

They were saying on the broadcast and on the post game that the strain of the regular season can start getting to some people like Stras, Gio, and Zim, I can see that. What are they at now, like 25 starts each or so? He's got about 1 or 2 more starts, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets shut down before then. His fastball was there, but it was all over the place. Maybe he was just in his head about being the stopper this season.

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
They were saying on the broadcast and on the post game that the strain of the regular season can start getting to some people like Stras, Gio, and Zim, I can see that. What are they at now, like 25 starts each or so?

I posted something similar in the Orioles thread a couple weeks ago.  I don't think starts are as important as total innings, but we'll see.

I don't think the Nats have to worry about Gio as much - he's thrown 200+ innings for the last 2 seasons, but Zim is reaching uncharted territory for him here on out, and we all know about Stras (I say one more start and he's done).  Oddly, Jackson may be the key for the Nats - he's an innings eater, just maybe not the most effective.

Edwin definitely lays the most stress on me when he pitches hahaha somehow he can throw any good amount of innings between 4 and 6 and somehow 1 will just get away from him. So weird.

I hope we don't have to rely on Edwin because he can't pitch more than five solid innings.. Innings eater? Not what I've seen…

Bryce Harper hit two home runs yesterday. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

I was at the Skins game last night so I wasn't able to watch, was super excited reading about Bryce's 2 jacks and Desi and Morse also getting RBIs, was able to listen to the last inning or so. Kurt Suzuki homering!? I'm fine with that! Heading out to the game tomorrow, hope I can FINALLY snag me a free Nats tee hahaha

hutch wrote:
Innings eater? Not what I've seen…

The guy has averaged 6 and 1/3 innings per start every season for the last 3 years.  Clearly your definition of "innings eater" is not the same as every GM in baseball, who would all agree that that's more than a quality start per start.

Is he the Ace every team who has had him thought he would be?  Absolutely not.  But he is more than serviceable and gives the pen a much need break far more often than most #4 starters.  That's an innings eater.

edwin sure delivered tonight.

vansmack wrote:

hutch wrote:
Innings eater? Not what I've seen…

The guy has averaged 6 and 1/3 innings per start every season for the last 3 years.  Clearly your definition of "innings eater" is not the same as every GM in baseball, who would all agree that that's more than a quality start per start.

Is he the Ace every team who has had him thought he would be?  Absolutely not.  But he is more than serviceable and gives the pen a much need break far more often than most #4 starters.  That's an innings eater.

the games I've seen though he gets to the fifth or sixth inning and falls apart…I just have no confidence in the guy… guess I just saw the wrong games but i never saw him make it to the 7th inning..

i'm comfortable with edwin. he always has that one inning that can make or break the entire start, but he can be reliable (and sometimes close to dominant) if he gets out of it relatively unscathed and gets decent run support. the key when he starts is for the nats to get him some runs really early. tonight was the best i've ever seen him. the nats immediately took the lead and edwin completely shut the cardinals down for 8 innings.

if nothing else i like his willingness to help out the team in less obvious ways, like pinch running and warming up in the bullpen when the nats run out of relievers in extra inning games

i dont know how likely it is for him to come back next year, but i like what he can bring as a postseason starter.

double post

Does he really have a choice in the matter on these items?

gaaaaaaaaah wrote:

if nothing else i like his willingness to help out the team in less obvious ways, like pinch running and warming up in the bullpen when the nats run out of relievers in extra inning games

I'm sure he could say "no" if he felt like it. Was super pleased with Edwin's start last night. Highest pitch count for a Nats pitcher this year. Good to see them bounce back with 16 runs in the past 2 games after the bats sleeping over the weekend and beginning of the week. Excited to hit the game tonight! I'm 0 for 2 this season, so hopefully tonight we get a win!

I dunno, you make 10 million a year, I don't think you can say "no" to your boss.

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
I'm sure he could say "no" if he felt like it. Was super pleased with Edwin's start last night. Highest pitch count for a Nats pitcher this year. Good to see them bounce back with 16 runs in the past 2 games after the bats sleeping over the weekend and beginning of the week. Excited to hit the game tonight! I'm 0 for 2 this season, so hopefully tonight we get a win!

Davey cherishes all the pitchers though, didn't Edwin grab his cleets and step and say that he could have pitched in that extra inning game? I'd imagine he COULDNT say "no", but even still I still think he has a choice… kind of hahaha