Steinbrenner never had to "make a case" for firing a manager!
BREAK UP THE F-ING NATIONALS
James wrote:
Steinbrenner never had to "make a case" for firing a manager!
you're joking, right? i am hoping so.. i hope you're not trolling dude… i don't know about you anymore..
steinbrenner was just awful at handling managers.. he'd fire a guy and then rehire him.. .only when he loosened his control of the team after like 15 pretty poor seasons did things get better..
last night davey lost that game.
so many questionable calls. storen in for the 9th? that was one of the worst managing moves i've ever seen. what a terrible waste.
he should have had soriano in there who hasn't had any work as of late. that game was a must-win, and you put soriano in that spot and you go into the 9th knowing your big hitters are coming up.
so many questionable calls. storen in for the 9th? that was one of the worst managing moves i've ever seen. what a terrible waste.
he should have had soriano in there who hasn't had any work as of late. that game was a must-win, and you put soriano in that spot and you go into the 9th knowing your big hitters are coming up.
oh, and fire the manager.
stevewizzle wrote:
oh, and fire the manager.
well i do think they are going to fire the manager in a few days…
who knows maybe a fresh approach will help
hutch wrote:
Davey does look spent though.. no energy..
case and point on this was his lack of arguement on the phantom tag.
he should have wreaked havoc. he should have been in his face for 5 minutes. coaches should have had to remove him from the umpires face. he should have picked up a base and threw it. he should have kicked dirt, thrown a hissy fit, screamed, yelled like a baby, thrown his hat on the ground, etc,.
but no. davey went out. asked a question or two, and then called it a day.
fire the fucking manager.
god damn! I nominate stevewizzle as davey's replacement. Can he work in Seattle for a day job and manage the Nationals at night?
i accept your nomination.
when do i start?
when do i start?
stevewizzle wrote:
case and point on this was his lack of arguement on the phantom tag.
he should have wreaked havoc. he should have been in his face for 5 minutes. coaches should have had to remove him from the umpires face. he should have picked up a base and threw it. he should have kicked dirt, thrown a hissy fit, screamed, yelled like a baby, thrown his hat on the ground, etc,.
but no. davey went out. asked a question or two, and then called it a day.
fire the fucking manager.
Even Crash Davis knew "they're kids, scare 'em" - would have been a good opportunity.
Maybe he called them a bunch of lollygaggers in the shower after the game.
You guys are not being serious.. Davey Johnson has won a World Series and got the team into the playoffs just last year…
Go Davey! Don't listen to 'em…
Go Davey! Don't listen to 'em…
hutch wrote:
Davey does look spent though.. no energy..
This is definitely his last season.. I think he's a good baseball mind and if I was the Nats I'd keep him til the end of the season and then move him to the front office where he was before and use him as an extra set of eyes etc… …. unless the Lerners are planning on some big spending like yesterday this season is lost anyways… they don't have the bats.. Rizzo blew it IMHO, during the offseason, by not realizing they needed more bats
Davey was front office before, then he came in as manager, this is definitely his last year, then he IS going back to the front office. That was the plan all along.
I don't think he'll be fired. There's just too much potential in this line-up.
They all just need to click at the same time. Right now it seems like it's only Werth slamming in runs. At one point it looked like only Span and Zimmerman could get on base, another time it looked like only Desi and Harper could. They seem super wound up. Strasburg goes out and allows 1 run and they can't muster ANYTHING!? Come on!!!
We're making every pitcher we face look like a fucking Cy Young contender.
stevewizzle wrote:
i accept your nomination.
when do i start?
You're a bold man Stevewizzle.
I'm pretty sure I've played/watched/listened to more baseball than anybody on this board, but I would never want to be a manager.
Now GM, that's a whole different story.
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Davey was front office before, then he came in as manager, this is definitely his last year, then he IS going back to the front office. That was the plan all along.
well yeah but if they fire him I think he won't be going back to the front office.. they lose that if they fire him is what I'm saying..
Seems like the old guy has the owner wrapped around his finger.
hutch wrote:DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Davey was front office before, then he came in as manager, this is definitely his last year, then he IS going back to the front office. That was the plan all along.
well yeah but if they fire him I think he won't be going back to the front office.. they lose that if they fire him is what I'm saying..
vansmack wrote:stevewizzle wrote:
i accept your nomination.
when do i start?
You're a bold man Stevewizzle.
I'm pretty sure I've played/watched/listened to more baseball than anybody on this board, but I would never want to be a manager.
Now GM, that's a whole different story.
now would be a bad time to let everyone know i scored a 1/10 on that ESPN quiz you posted a month or so back.
but watching tito get run out of boston a few years back and having a clubhouse full of assholes and watching him fall on the sword night after night really did paint that picture of how awful managers have it.
hutch wrote:
You guys are not being serious.. Davey Johnson has won a World Series and got the team into the playoffs just last year…
Go Davey! Don't listen to 'em…
fuck that cheerleader bullshit.
this is the time when you dig in your heals as a fan and let the team know you don't put up with this kind of bullshit, and you won't accept the team underachieving to the rate they are.
that said - the nats are up 2-0 in the first, and they are only 9 games back. they essentially need to win 70% or more of their remaining games, and atlanta has to continue to hurt themselves with injuries, etc.
stevewizzle wrote:hutch wrote:
You guys are not being serious.. Davey Johnson has won a World Series and got the team into the playoffs just last year…
Go Davey! Don't listen to 'em…
fuck that cheerleader bullshit.
this is the time when you dig in your heals as a fan and let the team know you don't put up with this kind of bullshit, and you won't accept the team underachieving to the rate they are.
that said - the nats are up 2-0 in the first, and they are only 9 games back. they essentially need to win 70% or more of their remaining games, and atlanta has to continue to hurt themselves with injuries, etc.
its not cheerleader bullshit dude… the guy has a track record .. he's been in the business a long time…he's been very succesful with different teams in different leagues.. he just got you to the playoffs last fricking year for the first time EVER… and before last season started i don''t think the Nats where a lock to make the offseason.. you treat him with respect and give him every chance… because if you don't your team will become a joke…
if the guy in question was manny acta- who was a terrible manager, with ZERO TRACK RECORD and I never liked- oh hells yeah i'd have fired him already but that is not the case here…
and don't act like the manager is to blame for everything man.. he's not the one not hitting the ball..
saying "oh my god we are losing fire the manager!" is good red meat but its just not good enough..
and lets not forget that johnson took over when the team looked like ass under riggleman.. it wasn't that long ago either..
You're not giving Manny Acta any respect because he's Latino. ;D
hutch wrote:
its not cheerleader bullshit dude… the guy has a track record .. he's been in the business a long time…he's been very succesful with different teams in different leagues.. he just got you to the playoffs last fricking year for the first time EVER… and before last season started i don''t think the Nats where a lock to make the offseason.. you treat him with respect and give him every chance… because if you don't your team will become a joke…
if the guy in question was manny acta- who was a terrible manager, with ZERO TRACK RECORD and I never liked- oh hells yeah i'd have fired him already but that is not the case here…
and don't act like the manager is to blame for everything man.. he's not the one not hitting the ball..
saying "oh my god we are losing fire the manager!" is good red meat but its just not good enough..
man that game was lost last night by davey. if i was a player on the team last night, i would be furious. the complacency shown during this series is ridiculous. he's mis-managed the bullpen, he gives the wrong guys the wrong days off, he's fucked with the lineup an insane amount and at times it has made zero statistical sense, and they've lost 11 of 13 and the all star break has only compounded the issues, it seems.
that's ALL on the manager. he's the guy who is suppose to right this ship, and make the team competitive every at bat. he's checked out, and no one is holding him accountable.