The Nats Thread

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Could be trying to save some coins to resign some of these guys next year… Piggy bank!


Save coin?

Clippard had one year left at $9m.

Escobar is $5m this year, $7m next year, and a team option of $7m in 2017.

This doesn't seem like a money saving move unless Desmond gets moved ($11m this year), which I'm not ruling out.
It seems they've already shopped him twice. I'm afraid we've seen the last of Desi in a Nats uni. So sad.
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
It seems they've already shopped him twice. I'm afraid we've seen the last of Desi in a Nats uni. So sad.


Well, he turned down a 7 year, $107m deal last off season so he's left the team with no choice to get what they can now.  That's a very generous offer for a middle infielder.

I hear the Mets and Daniel Murphy are what's in play now.
Scherzer talking 7 year deal with Nats and 1 other team per Jon Heyman CBS

"Nationals are willing to trade Strasburg if they land Scherzer." - Bleacher Report

@AdamKilgoreWP: Per a source, Max Scherzer to the Nats is "very close." Not finished yet.
man, i dont know

i like scherzers pitching but thats a lot of years for someone who turns 31 next season.

i think the only way id be on board is if the return from the resulting strasburg/zimmermann trade is huge. otherwise id rather they go with what they have, pay zimmermann and fister, and trade strasburg if necessary. 7 year deal for max has disaster written all over for it, especially with all the uncertainty already looming about 2016 and beyond

all offseason ive though the scherzer to dc rumors were just boras being boras but too many legit sources are reporting on it now for it to be completely made up.
I love it. get him. now.
So, who's getting traded?

Are we looking at Strasburg, Zimmerman, Gonzalez, Fister, Scherzer?

That's heavy.
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
So, who's getting traded?

Are we looking at Strasburg, Zimmerman, Gonzalez, Fister, Scherzer?

That's heavy.


well i think its a bit their insurance against being unable to resign Zimmerman…I have to believe if he would have taken the same deal as Scherzer they would have given it to him? that maybe they already offered it to him in fact?

I wouldn't trade any of them unless I could get a big bat in exchange…
7 years,  $180m.  Have to think Zimmerman would be cheaper and younger.
vansmack wrote:
7 years,  $180m.  Have to think Zimmerman would be cheaper and younger.


only $180? wow…I thought it was 7 years 200 million.. they got a bargain

I don't know we can say with any certitude Zim will be less..but the point is he may just not want to play for DC.. it may not be just about money…

but Scherzer ain't chopped liver.. he's a great pitcher..

I'm happy.. should i be sad they signed him Vansmack just cause you hate it when players get money? You always look at it from the team's front office standpoint.. I'm just a fan and look forward to seeing him.. I think signing him is a huge coup
Article on this either being a Lerner "all in" move or Rizzo's "Gameplan" for the future.

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/washington-nationals-max-scherzer-mike-rizzo-ted-lerner-scott-boras-who-is-calling-shots-011815

I like him saying he won't trade Desmond. Unless it's a deal you can't resist. With all the stuff I've read about the organization and their relationship with Desmond I'd be so sad if he did go away. But, we'll see! Spring training is what… 6 weeks away?
I heard $180m, now I'm hearing $210m.
vansmack wrote:
I heard $180m, now I'm hearing $210m.
If they gave him $30 million per year, then "mazel tov, Max, mazel tov."
looks like its 210 but half deferred

so 15 per year for 14 years

yikes. im guessing the masn uncertainty played into that

im also seeing no indication that rizzo is desperate to move anyone, including zimmermann and desmond. ims till wrapping my head around this deal but if thats true we're looking at a rotation for the ages next year. tough luck for roark but what an insurance policy hed be
Have they announced a price increase on 2015 tickets yet?
These 5 and Roark in the bullpen for long relief? Yeesh.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/max-scherzer-and-when-210-million-isnt-210-million/

Instead, the Nationals will pay Scherzer $15 million per season, but do so for 14 years; essentially, they?ve deferred half of each season?s salary seven years into the future. Effectively, they signed Scherzer for $105 million over the seven years that he?ll pitch for them, and then they?ll pay him the next $105 million after the contract ends, making this the most deferred money contract in baseball history.
Shemp wrote:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/max-scherzer-and-when-210-million-isnt-210-million/

Fascinating read. +1