The Nats Thread

vansmack wrote:
I honestly feel like the team is trying to do anything it can to win one for the old man before he dies and the fans are going to suffer in the long run.

But it should be a helluva two years. 

well this first part is obvious. but in the longer term, as it stands now they have two big deals that would now be considered a bargain (werth and zimmerman) and one thats spread out over such a long period the actual burden on the team will be minimal. they havent come close to mortgaging the future yet. if they win it all in 2015 they dont really have to worry about desmond/zimmermann megadeals, which would lessen the blow of strasburg/harper/rendon megadeals. recent moves have left them in decent shape if they lose desmond and/or jordan, so i dont see rizzo outbidding himself out of desperation there. scott boras might have a good working relationship with rizzo but youre acting like his clients are all guaranteed record money from the lerners. let those potential deals actually play out before calling them ill advised.

plus the farm system is still strong and rizzo isnt giving out 9 figure deals like candy. when those things change then ill be concerned. anything in the meantime is just pointless fear mongering. they didnt have to sign scherzer, but its a luxury they could afford and until it becomes the trend for this team, im not gonna worry about their financials.

Julian, wrote:
Hey, it worked for the Tige— ohhhhh… :(

I thought about using the Tigers as an example, especially as the Phils won a World Series, but the Tigers are still competitive and making the playoffs to where the Phils are just awful with no hope of getting good anytime soon.

gaaaaaaaaah wrote:
one thats spread out over such a long period the actual burden on the team will be minimal. they havent come close to mortgaging the future yet.

record money from the lerners. let those potential deals actually play out before calling them ill advised.

its a luxury they could afford and until it becomes the trend for this team, im not gonna worry about their financials.

I agree, if their financial situation stays the same, they haven't over risked to a point, but what if the team has to be sold after the old man passes.

"You mean, I would owe over $100m to a player who's not even on the roster?  And I can't sign my own TV deal to make up the difference?  Who the hell thought those were good ideas?"

Here are the details:

2015: $10m (which is $5m less than what he made last year)
2016-18: $15m each year
2019-2021: $35m per year, all deferred from 2022-2028 interest free.

$50m signing bonus spread out throughout the life of the contract.

Other Bonuses:

$250,000 per Cy Young, MVP or World Series MVP award
$150,000 per MVP of the League Championship Series
$100,000 per all-star team, Gold Glove or Silver Slugger

There is NOT a no-trade clause, though the deferred money for pitching years 35, 36, and 37 make any trade difficult.

Nats sign Casey Janssen for $5m with a mutual option for 16.  That's a great deal for a solid reliever (and not just because he's an Orange County guy).

WASHINGTON – Washington Nationals outfielder Jayson Werth reached a plea deal in his reckless driving charge from July 2014, according to the Washington Post. He will serve five days in jail and have his driving license suspended for 30 days.

Werth?s plea deal allows him to serve his time on weekends to allow him to continue rehab from his recent shoulder surgery. Circuit Court Judge Randy L. Bellows agreed to the terms, but mentioned that the flexibility was unusual, given that Werth was caught driving over 100 mph at the time he was pulled over.

The Nationals released a statement saying they are aware of the plea agreement.

?We do not condone reckless behavior, and we expect all members of the Washington Nationals organization to act in a responsible manner,? the statement read. ?We support Jayson, who is an integral part of the community and of the Washington Nationals family.?

Going over 100 on the beltway on his way to the park!

Sounds like another Maryland driver to me.

He is going to be jacked when he gets out!

Nationals replace Phillies on Harrisburg, Penn. radio station

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/nationals-replace-phillies-on-harrisburg--penn--radio-station-072717329.html

LOL

Bandwagoners

vansmack wrote:
Bandwagoners

They jacked up the price after they won the first division title too. Smh.

Funny thing, I was watching the Nats opener from 2012 [first division title win season] and they SAID there was 40,000+ in attendance, but the stands just did not look packed. It was the walk off win with Zimmerman coming in to score in the 10th off the wild pitch. The line-up looked insanely different. And Jayson Werth had short hair and barely any facial hair. Funny to think how much teams can change in a handful of seasons.

Well, that article is discussing the secondary market.  It's a bit early to see if people actually pay some of those prices.  And be warned if you buy those Lexus/President's Club seats from the secondary market.  Re-sold tickets don't always come with the buffet, free drinks, etc.  You could end up paying out the nose for a decent seat but with no perks. 

I read it after I responded. What a weird article. Of course tickets are going to be high after they first went on sale! Sheesh.

Nats exercise Matt Williams 2016 option.

He'll have no excuses this season.

This never gets old to me:

http://deadsp.in/Li5a9hU

vansmack wrote:
This never gets old to me:

http://deadsp.in/Li5a9hU

I feel like they troll Dan Kolko SO much hahaha. I wonder what hijinks Scherzer and Gio will be up to this year. I like at the end of the interview when he runs into the dugout and all the guys are laughing. BASEBALL!

concerned

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/13/anthony-rendon-has-a-sprained-mcl-in-his-left-knee/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

it is worrisome

hopefully theyre getting the injuries out of the way now, and they dont rush anyone back. with this pitching staff and a weak division theres no need to go 110% the first month

spans injury concerns me most. first the sports hernia surgery, then the core. im no medical expert but thats troubling for someone whose game relies so much on quick moves. rendon is key but as long as he doesnt rush back, his injury doesnt seem like a recurring thing.

i tend not to follow spring trainign stats too closely but i see tyler moore is having a great spring. ive been hoping hed find a way to pull it together as a bench guy here so maybe this is the year.

also heard good things about wilmer difo as a middle infield successor should desmond leave (whichs eems like a given at this point)

and zimmerman's fielding has gotten good marks too. his glvoe was never gonna be the concern at first, but nice to see hes picked up the basics so fast.

I feel like Tyler Moore always has a good spring…. If Span does miss time, I liked what I saw from Michael Taylor last year. I'd like to see him get more time and get more comfortable in the big league line-up. 3 more weeks!