202(2)5 - dems in disarray thread

Starsky wrote:
But Democrats hardly talk up any good news regarding the economy. It’s all about abortion and Trump.

appears was an agreed on policy across the board, seemed like a winning plan
but I agree now, it was not

Blaming the evil rich corporations is stupid.

Well I would argue it's not being done effectively
I do think our gov't should move forward with a new 'trust-busting' era as the consolidation in so many industries is off the charts compared to the turn of the last century

Everyone focuses on the silcon valley ones, but the areas I think we should focus on are the Food chain, healthcare  and energy
coporations are driving the conversation

Its complex, but the corps have the advantage in the PR. They have both sides of congress in their pockets and have convinced 1/2 of the voting population that they are doing the good of the people by exploiting them

SoldMyPoll4RnR wrote:

Starsky wrote:
But Democrats hardly talk up any good news regarding the economy. It’s all about abortion and Trump.

appears was an agreed on policy across the board, seemed like a winning plan
but I agree now, it was not

Blaming the evil rich corporations is stupid.

Well I would argue it's not being done effectively
I do think our gov't should move forward with a new 'trust-busting' era as the consolidation in so many industries is off the charts compared to the turn of the last century

Everyone focuses on the silcon valley ones, but the areas I think we should focus on are the Food chain, healthcare  and energy
coporations are driving the conversation

It complex, but the corps have the advantage in the PR. They have both sides of congress in their pockets and have convinced 1/2 of the voting population that they are doing the good of the people by exploiting them

Well we are talking about inflation.

Let me get this straight: inflation for about 40 years has been really low but largely the same evil corporations devised a master plan to raise prices for no reason other than to line their pockets? Simultaneously and in cahoots with other corporations all over the world?

Starsky wrote:


Corporations always get the blame for raising prices. They raise prices when their costs of doing business go up. And it becomes a cycle. One company raises prices then another follows etc. When wages fail to keep up people become relatively poorer and blame government. Obviously coming out of the pandemic there were global issues that caused inflation: supply chain issues, scarcity of workers, etc. Then the Russian invasion of Ukraine caused energy prices to go up…Blaming the evil rich corporations is stupid.

What are you even saying?

ExxonMobil recorded its higher ever quarterly profit - $17.9 billion dollars for three months - in 2022 Q2. If that's not evil corporation price gouging I have no idea what is. They could easily have held prices, or even lowered them and still had made more money than they know what to do with.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/08/08/oil-companies-profits-inflation/

Oil companies make huge profits when oil PRICES go way up. Always been that way. But they don’t raise the cost of a barrel of oil. OPEC etc does that. Demand and supply to an extent.

Personally I think gas prices have been fine except for a few months. The barrel of oil is at close to $100! What do we expect? The same price at the pump as when it was $50? Just doesn’t work like that…

That’s part of the issue with inflation- energy prices- but it’s part and in my opinion a small part…we had gas prices much higher a few years ago and no inflation.

The real killer is the grocery store.

Starsky wrote:
Let me get this straight: inflation for about 40 years has been really low but largely the same evil corporations devised a master plan to raise prices for no reason other than to line their pockets? Simultaneously and in cahoots with other corporations all over the world?

wow, you finally get it.
welcome to the party comrade, you will get a shirt and armband in the mail

And you can probably blame the Saudis more than anyone. They are trying to torpedo Biden.

Biden faces a difficult international context with powerful enemies everywhere: the Saudis, Netanyahu, the Russians and China. All of them want Trump back.

what grateful said.  greedy corporations see prices increasing, so they tag on their own "inflation."  never let a good crisis go to waste.

i wouldn't be surprised to hear that companies with antipathy to the current administration - oil sector, perchance? - made a point of playing politics by raising prices more aggressively then if the GOP was in power.  fuel that unhappiness and pain at the pump/register/etc.  do their little part to get their guys back in.

Poppycock and speculation. Typical Democrat anti-business BS.


I don’t care for oil companies either but when oil prices were low they struggled. They didn’t raise the price of gas at the pump! Hell it got to like $1.60 a gallon!

Ok, probably won't move the dial…but jez-louise

I mean are there greedy corporations? Sure. And government has a role to play - regulation-  which democrats always talk about like getting big corporations to pay taxes… nothing ever seems to happen though…

Companies are always going to try to maximize profits. Biden’s strategy of trying to publicly shame oil companies is all bark and no bite. For the peanut gallery

Ok Sabato is calling it with

237-198 republicans

51-49 Republicans


Geez…

Starsky wrote:
Ok Sabato is calling it with

this guy: Antonio Sabato Jr?

Larry Sabato.

actually, I knew that, but it was funnier to post
I guess it should have gone like "at least we still have ASJ"

SoldMyPoll4RnR wrote:
actually, I knew that, but it was funnier to post
I guess it should have gone like "at least we still have ASJ"

It's unfortunate we still have him. Though WE don't have him.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/antonio-sabato-jr-says-supporting-donald-trump-ended-his-hollywood-n1151016

Space wrote:

SoldMyPoll4RnR wrote:
actually, I knew that, but it was funnier to post
I guess it should have gone like "at least we still have ASJ"

It's unfortunate we still have him. Though WE don't have him.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/antonio-sabato-jr-says-supporting-donald-trump-ended-his-hollywood-n1151016

ASJ: waahh, no one will hire me because I support DJT
people who hire actors: Nah, that's not the reason

Hollywood definitely has a long tradition of blacklisting actors, writers, you name it.

I mean a guy with a resume of daytime soaps and Melrose place…then Throughout the late 1990s, he starred in various TV movies and direct-to-video films,

I don't know why they are knocking on his door

although TIL he is a jew

and this little tid bit
In 2013, Sabàto was named the international celebrity spokesperson for AnastasiaDate, an online mail-order bride website which connects wealthy American older men with Eastern European women.
Must be how he got in Trumps inner circle

wow, had no idea where the ASJ rabbit hole would end, but didn't perdict I'd see this
Sabàto had testosterone pellets injected into his buttocks

again with that pedagree, not sure why he's not in many major motion picture productions

Wasserman is not predicting a good day for the Dems

Our new Senator from Georgia…

Herschel Walker has noticed Democrats emphasizing threats to democracy, and the Georgia Republican apparently wants to contribute to the conversation. For example, the Senate hopeful appeared on Fox News on Friday night and shared these thoughts:

“The biggest threat to democracy is to have Sen. [Raphael] Warnock out there, to have Senator Warnock voting to put men in women’s sports. That’s the biggest threat to democracy.”

Well, no, actually it’s not. Decisions about transgender athletes aren’t made by senators — the GOP candidate appeared to be referring to a Senate vote that never happened — and none of this relates to the health, stability, or durability of our democracy.

And so, on Sunday morning, Walker tried again, pointing to what he sees as a different threat during another Fox News appearance.

“When you have a president talking about the biggest threat to democracy, it seems to be to electing a Republican. But I want everyone that is listening to me, the biggest threat to democracy is to have him at the White House. “

Why is President Joe Biden a threat to democracy? Walker didn’t get around to explaining his rationale, probably because he didn’t have one.

Eventually, the Georgian gave this one last try.

“The biggest threat to democracy is to have someone like Senator Warnock that voted against our Keystone pipeline, which put us in an international threat. I think, right now, that’s a threat, and it’s a security threat. We’re going to our enemies to ask for energy. That’s a threat. That’s the biggest threat to democracy there.”

For the record, the idea that the Keystone XL pipeline has created “an international threat” is not to be taken seriously. Politico reported last week, “President Joe Biden’s regulators have approved new oil and gas wells at a far faster pace than the Trump administration did during its first 21 months in office — a fact that undermines Republican election-year arguments about the causes of this year’s high gasoline prices. The U.S. has also produced more crude oil since Biden’s inauguration than it had done during the equivalent period of former President Donald Trump’s presidency.”

But even putting these details aside, why in the world would anyone see this as “the biggest threat to democracy”?