Sidehatch
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 24, 2022 at 04:55 PM UTC
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so, do we thing the economy is going to trump* be more important than Roe and J6
sadly I think it will
saw this and am just concerned for the future
@NoLieWithBTC
Reminder: These hearings and this committee only exists because Democrats have a tiny 5 seat majority.
5 seats. That’s what’s keeping the hope for democracy alive. We have to expand our majorities in November
@SpiroAgnewGhost
The Supreme Court, in overturning Roe this morning, gave the best shot to Democrats to hold onto the House & Senate in November & grow the margins of the majority. If this does not motivate millions & millions of more women (& men who care) to vote, what will do so? Terrible day.
I just don't think this is going to bring out the vote in a way that will benefit the dems in 2022 /24
* I can not express how annoying it is that I can no longer use that great card playing term anymore
Starsky
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 24, 2022 at 05:02 PM UTC
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Expand? Try lose 45 seats! (Not my final prediction….still trying to retain hope)
I just don’t know that I feel comfortable saying Democrats can keep squeezing more and more votes from female voters. I mean I feel the margin provided by women the past few cycles is already really high.
And there are other issues…Latinos tend to be against abortion …there are Republicans and republican leaning women against abortion…Catholics tend to be against abortion…all these voters could be energized to vote (“see our vote matters!”)
Then there are Republican or say Trump Republicans who may feel energized that Trump stuck it to the liberals even if they personally couldn’t care less about abortion. They feel like they “won”…deplorables
The flip side could be demoralized Democrats…we keep voting and we can’t catch a break why bother
Sidehatch
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 24, 2022 at 05:10 PM UTC
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Starsky wrote:
Expand? Try lose 45 seats! (Not my final prediction….still trying to retain hope)
I agree, but I posted those tweets, because they likely are wrong
jez..how is there a world where I agree with Dave Portnoy
https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1540356814579146753?s=20&t=QcrTdLNHjE6U_fQJGdmqsQHe littlery said we need to vote for Biden!?!
sweetcell
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 24, 2022 at 05:28 PM UTC
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Starsky wrote:
And there are other issues…Latinos tend to be against abortion …there are Republicans and republican leaning women against abortion…Catholics tend to be against abortion…all these voters could be energized to vote (“see our vote matters!”)
(…)
The flip side could be demoralized Democrats…we keep voting and we can’t catch a break why bother
flipside: right wingnuts got what they came for. they're all good. no reason to rush out and vote. meanwhile, the lefties are enraged and see that they're victims of the right's long game. time to get up and fight/vote.
content voters tend to stay home. pissed off voters tend to line up at the polls.
vansmack
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 24, 2022 at 05:29 PM UTC
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useless wrote:
so, do we thing the economy is going to be more important than Roe and J6
sadly I think it will
It always is.
Sidehatch
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 24, 2022 at 11:48 PM UTC
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So maybe it the alcohol and flower
But for some reason I’m starting to feel optimistic about local elections in 2022
On the federal level, still a bloodbath
But this issue will impact local elections
Let’s talk Nov 5 , but for now I have some delusional optimism
Sidehatch
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 28, 2022 at 02:57 PM UTC
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so…any chance that Lauren Boebert's primary turns the way of maddy?
Space Freely
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 28, 2022 at 03:07 PM UTC
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I wrote:
so…any chance that Lauren Boebert's primary turns the way of maddy?
Was she cousinfucking too?
kosmo
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 28, 2022 at 03:07 PM UTC
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I wrote:
so…any chance that Lauren Boebert's primary turns the way of maddy?
probably not as that allegation about her having a Koch sugar daddy apparently didn't stick.. and all the dumb shit she does and says on a regular basis is widely reported anyways…
Sidehatch
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 29, 2022 at 10:18 PM UTC
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yes a little early, but promising none the less as it was neck and neck in the last poll
Quinnipiac poll: Georgia Senate
Raphael Warnock 54%
Herschel Walker 44%
kosmo
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 30, 2022 at 01:22 PM UTC
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it's getting tiresome how quickly misleading information gets spread about what Biden is or isn't doing about stuff, today it's access to abortion last month it was student debt…
feel free to keep shouting behind your keyboards and not voting or voting republican.. because when DeSantis, 45** or Abbott became president say good bye to the constitution and our feeble democracy…
remember DeSantis gets butthurt about little shit and retaliates biggly and if 45** gets back in office hold your horses
kosmo
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 30, 2022 at 01:58 PM UTC
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This just in Biden is changing his position and is supporting a carveout exception for the filibuster to codify stuff… it's nice to have adults in charge and i'm sure he conferred with smart people on this issue.. and not a bunch of self proclaimed experts
Sidehatch
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
June 30, 2022 at 02:59 PM UTC
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kosmo wrote: and not a bunch of self proclaimed experts
I feel attacked
vansmack
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
July 07, 2022 at 04:48 PM UTC
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
July 07, 2022 at 04:50 PM UTC
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vansmack
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
July 07, 2022 at 04:52 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:Hilarious typo.
Haha. And I won't correct it.
Sidehatch
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
July 07, 2022 at 09:34 PM UTC
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Ok, odd person to get this quote from, but it tracks
Paula Poundstone@paulapoundstone
I heard a frustrated Democrat on the radio say, "We voted in 2020." That's like saying, "I fed the baby yesterday."
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
July 07, 2022 at 10:07 PM UTC
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It’s actually not.
I don’t remember Biden saying vote for Democrats and give us majority in Senate and House and I will have no way of passing any laws or doing more than managing the federal bureaucracy because Manchin and Sinema are wusses.
People are tired of marching and voting and not seeing much for their troubles…
It’s just a really weak argument on Biden’s part… i mean look at abortion…everyone knew this was coming..a proactive president could have organized a bunch of measures to help women who need an abortion in states where abortion was made illegal with the ruling. Yet they had absolutely nothing
It’s kind of pitiful
kosmo
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
July 08, 2022 at 02:43 PM UTC
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This just in Biden signs an executive order
“Protecting Access to Reproductive Health Care Services”
https://twitter.com/edokeefe/status/1545363309469343744?s=20&t=Qv8b1keTeVM9f6ByNQ-kBAJust skimming the highlights this looks comprehensive…