Relaxer
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:00 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by callat703:
Actually, at this point? I think Radiohead could equal U2 in ticket sales.
Extremely doubtful. In the US, I don't think they could equal Dave Matthews Band. When Radiohead plays amphitheaters, correct me if I'm wrong, but the lawns don't usually sell out, right?
If you randomly picked 100 Americans who described themselves as music lovers and asked them to name a Radiohead song, the great majority would say "what was that song with the *chunka* *chunka* guitar part?" If you asked a similar group to name a U2 song, you'd get about 5 or 6 responses.
Radiohead is a fine band that is very successful, but U2 long ago reached (and has remained on) that level of fame that only Michael, Bruce, and Madonna are on. The average person couldn't hum any Radiohead song except Creep, but the average person could surely hum Pride, Streets Have No Name, W/ or W/O You, Mysterious Ways, Beautiful Day, Vertigo, and probably several more.
vansmack
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:00 PM UTC
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Originally posted by le sonick:
oh no, we got the U2 fan into it now. :D
All I'm saying is U2 chose to not play stadiums in America. Their Australia and New Zealand shows (and many UK shows) were at 60,000+ Stadiums. Do some homework before making a blanket statement like that, that's all I'm saying.
And I've been here from the beginning.
elj
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:02 PM UTC
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Originally posted by le sonick:
Radiohead played Coachella in 2004.
and actually, the day Radiohead played was the very first day Coachella ever sold out.
course Kraftwerk and the Pixies played that night, but still. just sayin, it sold out.
Then I stand corrected on that fact.
But it still doesn't affect my overall contention that Radiohead is not the "number one" concert draw in a world with DMB, Madonna, Bruce Springsteen, and U2. Definitely not in North America, at least. The case could be made for Europe, I suppose.
EDIT: Heck, I'd bet just for giggles that the next Radiohead tour doesn't sell as quickly as the Hannah Montana tour just did. :D
manimtired
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:03 PM UTC
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i think Drudge IS a meta-news site 99.9% of the time…i think i'll check it now b/c i cant deal with anymore radiohead talk.
elj
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:05 PM UTC
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I'll do Daft Punk homework. *drumfill*
callat703
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:05 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by callat703:
Actually, at this point? I think Radiohead could equal U2 in ticket sales.
Extremely doubtful. In the US, I don't think they could equal Dave Matthews Band. When Radiohead plays amphitheaters, correct me if I'm wrong, but the lawns don't usually sell out, right?
If you randomly picked 100 Americans who described themselves as music lovers and asked them to name a Radiohead song, the great majority would say "what was that song with the *chunka* *chunka* guitar part?" If you asked a similar group to name a U2 song, you'd get about 5 or 6 responses.
Radiohead is a fine band that is very successful, but U2 long ago reached (and has remained on) that level of fame that only Michael, Bruce, and Madonna are on. The average person couldn't hum any Radiohead song except Creep, but the average person could surely hum Pride, Streets Have No Name, W/ or W/O You, Mysterious Ways, Beautiful Day, Vertigo, and probably several more.
This is a good point. If you want to go purely by these tangibles, then I'm sure you're right - there are bands that would generate greater name recognition or song recognition than Radiohead.
My contention is more along the lines of sonick's, where there are intangibles to be debated. Influence being one of the biggest.
vansmack
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:05 PM UTC
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Originally posted by le sonick:
i dont need to do "U2 homework", thats what you're hear for. :p
Fine by me, but change your moniker to Matt Drudge.
sonickteam2
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:07 PM UTC
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the average american "music lover" also bought tickets to the Puddle of Mudd / Saliva show too.
please.
poll 100 americans and no matter what, you get a stupid answer.
Mobius
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:08 PM UTC
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The Lawn was packed at the 2003 Merriweather show.
vansmack
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:09 PM UTC
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Originally posted by le sonick:
you have those stats mr. ticket sales? :)
You've come a long way from your first statement that ticket sales and album sales aren't a good measure….
vansmack
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:16 PM UTC
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Originally posted by le sonick:
but as long as you're droppin all this knowledge of venue sizes of tours across the world, i just thought you might have info on Radiohead too. its not really much of a discussion if we only know about one of the bands.
You're the Radiohead fanboy. Why do I have to do your HW to prove that Radiohead are dwarfs of their once big selves? You should have to discover that on your own. The rest of us already have….
vansmack
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:26 PM UTC
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Originally posted by le sonick:
in fact, one could argue that after Radiohead played, Coachella was never the same and sold out regularly after that.
I'm sure the Pixies reunion had nothing to do with that. Absolutely nothing.
vansmack
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 10, 2007 at 08:34 PM UTC
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Originally posted by le sonick:
read my whole post next time smackie.
I read it. I just wasn't approving of your dismissive attitude towards the thought of the Pixies being an add-on to the great life altering event that was Radiohead at Coachella.
Since then, the organizers have made a point to have reunited bands on every bill of Coachella culminating in constant reunion rumors about the only broken up band that still matters - The Smiths. I think the reunion think worked for ticket sales more than you're alluding to.