Originally posted by ixkpd-bk:I'm just very curious to see how it works out. I'd like to know the average price people are paying for the downloads. It's a ballsy move on their part for sure.
Side note: I understand that people might not like Radiohead, but don't those of you who dislike the music at least appreciate their marketing for this? I love that they're going the DIY route with this one!
HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
Has anyone else had trouble with their credit card on the site?
Originally posted by le sonick:Well since you bring them up… Corgan did beat Radiohead to the "free album online" concept by, oh, 7 years.
and please, never EVer EVER EVER compare Radiohead to the complete shite of Smashing Pumpkins,
Originally posted by bnyced0:
I can't imagine that Prince's foray into independent/online releases nearly successful nor lucrative enough to sustain him during the time frame you've indicated.
I applauded his intent, and still got his albums (since I'm pretty sure I have all of them) during this time period and it was almost always after that model failed to a certain extent and he allowed more traditional distribution.
In any case I believe his real cash cow was/is the sporadic and highly controlled touring he has done on a fairly consistent basis, but I'd love to see some numbers that support what you've said, because as you've pointed out elsewhere I'm not ALWAYS right. :)
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:It's actually a safer bet then you might think. Artists average about $1/album for traditional major label album sales. Take Radiohead's average for the last few albums as a case study: they sold around 600,000 copies of HTTT (I believe) and probably had 2 million illegally download it. So, they made $600,000 on that record (obviously the $$ is in touring).
I'm just very curious to see how it works out. I'd like to know the average price people are paying for the downloads. It's a ballsy move on their part for sure.
Now, you take those same 2.6 million (hypothetical) people and they're all downloading the record, but Radiohead controls the means of distribution. Obviously alot are going to pay nothing as always. But even if you factor in costs for radiohead to run a server at $50,000, to recoup that plus make the 600,000 they would thru traditional sales, they only have to average around 24 cents per download. So my five dollars covered myself plus 19 freeloaders. Sweetcell's 10 spot covered him plus 39 others.
And any diskbox's they sell are just gravy. They're collecting $$ now, but not printing until later so they don't even have to have startup costs to do it. It's a pretty savvy plan.
Originally posted by eros:Nope, your credit card worked just fine for my copy. Thanks again!
Has anyone else had trouble with their credit card on the site?
Originally posted by eros:someone here at work was unable to get his credit card to work earlier today, so no you're not alone.
Has anyone else had trouble with their credit card on the site?
i suspect that the problems are due to volume - i had them last night when the news first broke, you're having them today might be because it's the first day back in the office. i suggest waiting a while and trying again, hopefully they will have patched things up at their end. you have until the 10th :)
Originally posted by sweetcell:I think this is still where the problem lies. Radiohead (or any single entity) themselves don't seem to have the bandwidth capacity to handle a crush like this. I'm writing this as the site is hung up/crashing in another window. If they can't handle the ordering side of it, what's going to happen next week when everyone comes back for their 75 MB download?
Originally posted by eros:someone here at work was unable to get his credit card to work earlier today, so no you're not alone.
Has anyone else had trouble with their credit card on the site?
i suspect that the problems are due to volume - i had them last night when the news first broke, you're having them today might be because it's the first day back in the office. i suggest waiting a while and trying again, hopefully they will have patched things up at their end. you have until the 10th :)
Maybe I'll just download a torrent of it so I can still feel all dirty. :D
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:oh wow, so that makes the pumpkins a better band….even IF you believe that it was actually Corgan himself's idea. which is most probably wasnt. try again.
Originally posted by le sonick:Well since you bring them up… Corgan did beat Radiohead to the "free album online" concept by, oh, 7 years.
and please, never EVer EVER EVER compare Radiohead to the complete shite of Smashing Pumpkins,
Originally posted by le sonick:Who said that made the Pumpkins the better band? I simply pointed out that while the entire internet is going, "OMG, unprecedented!" that it's actually quite precedented.
oh wow, so that makes the pumpkins a better band….even IF you believe that it was actually Corgan himself's idea. which is most probably wasnt. try again.
And by all accounts, it was Billy's idea to finish those recording session and release it for free. You think Corgan wanted to release it on a label and Iha stole it from him in the middle of the night, pressed copies, and sent it to places for hosting? Get real.
I seriously don't know where you get half your ad populum ideas from. This ranks right up there with you being "subjected to reunions." :roll:
Originally posted by eros:i PRAY that they've contracted a content distribution network, like akamai, level 3 or edgecast… no single site would be able to handle a surge for that much content.
If they can't handle the ordering side of it, what's going to happen next week when everyone comes back for their 75 MB download?
if they haven't got a CDN onboard, forget about being able to DL the album (legally) on 10/12. it'll be several days before most people can get through, by which time it'll be available elsewhere.
Originally posted by manimtired:Whatever you say, go hump your Morrissey and National records.
Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:someone must have sand in their ears to swoon over a shitty band like QOTSA
Originally posted by manimtired:Someone has sand in their vagina.
Originally posted by The Parkers are dead:seriously…this place doesnt seem much different from a DC101 message board in terms of bands discussed. (i dont know if there is a DC101 message board)
Originally posted by kosmo:You forgot Queens of the Stone Age and Foo Fighters
First Smashing Pumpkins and now Radiohead, this place sure has gotten DULL around here…
for anyone who's heard these tracks…
as someone who hasn't been a fan of the past 10 years, do I stand a chance of liking this? or is it more Kid A - Hail to the Thief…?
as someone who hasn't been a fan of the past 10 years, do I stand a chance of liking this? or is it more Kid A - Hail to the Thief…?
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:lets recap.
Originally posted by le sonick:Who said that made the Pumpkins the better band? I simply pointed out that while the entire internet is going, "OMG, unprecedented!" that it's actually quite precedented.
oh wow, so that makes the pumpkins a better band….even IF you believe that it was actually Corgan himself's idea. which is most probably wasnt. try again.
And by all accounts, it was Billy's idea to finish those recording session and release it for free. You think Corgan wanted to release it on a label and Iha stole it from him in the middle of the night, pressed copies, and sent it to places for hosting? Get real.
I seriously don't know where you get half your ad populum ideas from. This ranks right up there with you being "subjected to reunions." :roll:
1. i say, dont compare the pumpkins to radiohead cause the pumpkins suck.
2. Corgan did beat Radiohead to the "free album online" concept by, oh, 7 years.
so youre comment was not really in response and basically in no way related to my original comment.
i just figured since you replied to my post you were sort of answering it or challenging it.
and then went on some rant about precendence and me not liking reunions, which i dont. and since when is that ad populum anyway.
perhaps only because so many shitty bands have been on reunion tours lately.
just because most people agree doesnt mean they are agreeing just to agree, maybe its really true!
and lastly, i never said that Radiohead has done anything "unprecedented"……other than musically blowing every other band on earth out of the studio…
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:so would you believe it if you heard that Corgan made his own instruments and carries his own gear, sets up the stage, cooks meals for the bands and drives the tour bus…or do you think he has a busdriver, roadies, cooks, and …gasp….marketing people to make these sorts of "unprecedented" decisions??
And by all accounts, it was Billy's idea to finish those recording session and release it for free. You think Corgan wanted to release it on a label and Iha stole it from him in the middle of the night, pressed copies, and sent it to places for hosting? Get real.
lol. i think you need to get real and get your wee head out from billy's armpit! :)
Originally posted by le sonick:What messageboard have you been on? Easily 97% of my posts on here are only tangentially related to the subject at hand!
so youre comment was not really in response and basically in no way related to my original comment.
Originally posted by le sonick:Just so I understand, you want me to believe his marketing people and his agent – who are in the $ making business – said, "Billy, go take that record that'd easily go gold like your last 5 and instead of selling it, give it out for free on the internet and accept no money for it"? That's what you want me to believe: that it wasn't the guy who'd already made his millions who said he had enough money and just wanted the music out there, but rather that it was his marketing people?
so would you believe it if you heard that Corgan made his own instruments and carries his own gear, sets up the stage, cooks meals for the bands and drives the tour bus…or do you think he has a busdriver, roadies, cooks, and …gasp….marketing people to make these sorts of "unprecedented" decisions??
And this free album was a marketing ploy for what exactly – to promote the non-existent tour they had in support of it?
Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:http://www.dc101.com/main.html
Originally posted by manimtired:Whatever you say, go hump your Morrissey and National records.
Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:someone must have sand in their ears to swoon over a shitty band like QOTSA
Originally posted by manimtired:Someone has sand in their vagina.
Originally posted by The Parkers are dead:seriously…this place doesnt seem much different from a DC101 message board in terms of bands discussed. (i dont know if there is a DC101 message board)
Originally posted by kosmo:You forgot Queens of the Stone Age and Foo Fighters
First Smashing Pumpkins and now Radiohead, this place sure has gotten DULL around here…
Originally posted by le sonick:
"Radiohead blows every other band on earth out of the studio."
Originally posted by le sonick:
"Radiohead has more talent than any other band"
Originally posted by sweetcell:
watershed
Originally posted by ixpd-bk:As soon as someone posts something with the word "revolutionary" in it, I'll have five across on my Radiohead-Dweeb-Hyperbole bingo card.
"mind blowing"
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:I have "Legendary" but I'm too lazy to search the post to see if I've won…
As soon as someone posts something with the word "revolutionary" in it, I'll have five across on my Radiohead-Dweeb-Hyperbole bingo card.