Brian_Walalce
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 12:34 PM UTC
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U2…Radiohead…Smashing Pumpkins. Y'all need to pull your heads out of your asses. They're all too precious.
I'm making a note to never take anything "Le Sonick" and "Call at 703" say seriously ever again. You are SO drinking the Kool-Aid with Radiohead.
They're just dull, now. They make masturbatory, self-indulgent, BORING music that only over-educated, under-employed thirty-somethings who wear "ironic" eyewear (and t-shirts), treasure their Transformers from their childhoods and can't throw a football to save their lives like. Do both of you live in New York City and have a blog? Oh, I forgot. Washington D.C. is the East Coast New York City. I mean, if you think what they're doing now is more creative and original than what, say, the Flaming Lips or the Super Furry Animals are doing, you are clearly mistaken.
Hey, if Radiohead want to become the British Sonic Youth, more power to 'em. But just know that no one under the age of 17 cares what Radiohead does.
Brian
skeeter
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 12:41 PM UTC
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Originally posted by le sonick:
there are not "big band" stats…..so for you to call my and calla703's opinions "completely erroneous" ….well, is just completely erroenous.
Well…Surely some things can be used as a gauge. You can't claim that someone is the "biggest band in the world", then completely discount things like record sales, ticket sales, public recognition, etc. According to callat703, those things are irrelevant. Those may not be absolute, determining factors, but they need to be taken into consideration.
I think some folks are underestimating Radiohead's draw, but others are a bit over-the-top in how they think the rest of the world views them.
Biggest band in the world? To your fellow Radiohead fans maybe - but not to most people. The world stopped yesterday while everyone took an hour to listen? Ummm….no. It's grandiose statements like that that make people roll their eyes and discount the rest of your arguments.
"Biggest" and "best/favorite" are completely different things. "Biggest" is at least partially quantifiable. "Best/Favorite" is 100% opinion.
sonickteam2
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 12:56 PM UTC
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can everyone please go back and read my statement.
i agreed with callat703 about Radiohead being the biggest band, then made this statement:
"i think "bigger" has more to do with album sales, commercials, merchandising sales or concert ticket sales…….using "big" to describe a band isnt something i would ever really do."
I backed out of calling Radiohead (or any other band for that matter) big almost immediately after it was said.
jeeeesuss. it like selective reading time around here.
nkotb
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 01:06 PM UTC
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Uh, have you looked at a map recently?
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Oh, I forgot. Washington D.C. is the East Coast New York City.
skeeter
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 01:16 PM UTC
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Originally posted by le sonick:
can everyone please go back and read my statement.
I read your statements. You said:
Originally posted by le sonick:
there are no "big band" stats….
and
"i think "bigger" has more to do with album sales, commercials, merchandising sales or concert ticket sales……."
I was just disagreeing with the first statement and agreeing with the second. :)
sonickteam2
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 01:20 PM UTC
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cause you're a good reader. :)
what did you think of the new disc, mr. chutney?
skeeter
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 01:29 PM UTC
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Originally posted by le sonick:
what did you think of the new disc, mr. chutney?
I haven't heard it. I'll just say "I don't get it" when it comes to Radiohead and leave it at that.
I'll probably download it though (and pay a small amount), just to support their distribution experiment.
K8teebug
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 01:41 PM UTC
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I think the new album is really wonderful. It's not the "Radiohead rock" I was hoping for, but I still think it's great.
I went to Coachella in 2004 for the Pixies, Radiohead and all the other wonderful bands who played that year were added bonuses for me.
I don't understand why people "don't get" them. They have a style that's different from most stuff that's out there. All of the subtle nuances in their music is unlike most bands out there.
And their live show is one of the best I've ever seen. Better than Wilco. Better than pretty much anyone.
There is no Radiohead Kool Aid. They're just a great band. Certainly better than most of the mediocre crap pitchfork is spoon-feeding most readers these days, that's for sure.
skeeter
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 01:51 PM UTC
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Originally posted by K8teebug:
I don't understand why people "don't get" them.
Because people have different tastes in music. That's really all it comes down to. People like different things.
Certainly better than most of the mediocre crap pitchfork is spoon-feeding most readers these days
ummm…Have you seen Pitchfork this week? It's a friggin' Radiohead love-fest.
TheDirector217
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 02:07 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
If you want a good analogy, try Lemmy's take on Motorhead: "We may not have had a huge amount of fans, but those that we had would murder for us. And that's saying a lot."
I just caught a visual of ggwâ?¢ playing a mean ass air guitar & starting a one-man mosh pit to "Ace Of Spades".
I'm so sad I can't turn that thought into an avatar or the most priceless YouTube clip of all time.
*sigh*
Sometimes I wish life was like The Jetsons. I bet Rosie & Elroy could make that shit happen . . .
Originally posted by le sonick:
but remember, next time U2 releases another album, or Ipod commercial, whichever comes first, i'll be the first to piss on the parade ;)
I love that. That shit made me laugh.
To add-on to what you were saying though, I don't think Radiohead was ever anywhere near mainstream. I would hardly call songs about weirdos & karma cops "accessible."
Nor am I a hater, I like Radiohead. Nowhere near the levels of yourself, but I like them. I just wish they'd get over this overlong ambient trance/jungle phase they're on & get the fuckin' guitars back out. That's all. I personally think "Airbag" (my favorite joint by them) is one of the meanest basslines this side of "Another One Bites The Dust", various Flea joints, & "Cannonball".
But we'll chop it up over some brews on that another day . . .
P.S. Haven't finished listening, but "Weird Fishes" is kinda hot.
Mobius
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 02:10 PM UTC
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Radiohead have some massive anthems like Street Spirit and the Bends which are conducive to 50,000 person sing a longs, so I could see where a Radiohead discussion could lead to U2 comparisons, but they are very different. For one U2 'found themselves' in mega-success, embraced it, and flourished in it. Radiohead lost themselves in it and were taken in another direction.
Radiohead are more like modern artists than a rock band. That's not a pretentious statement. That's what they are. Using sound instead of paint. And they're really good and when light is added in their live shows they're even better.
Not sure about the Beatles comparison. Pink Floyd would work better (and used to be common), but would still hit a wall quickly (no pun intended). As far as influence, Beatles inspired a lot of followers b/c they made it look easy to emulate them. Not sure anyone listens to OK Computer and says "I can do that, I'm going to start a band!"
Their influence is best served to inspire other bands to approach rock/electronic music as an art form rather than simply commerce (rather than just inspiring Coldplay to water-down their latest release).
TheDirector217
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 02:23 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Mobius:
Radiohead have some massive anthems like Street Spirit and the Bends which are conducive to 50,000 person sing a longs, so I could see where a Radiohead discussion could lead to U2 comparisons, but they are very different. For one U2 'found themselves' in mega-success, embraced it, and flourished in it. Radiohead lost themselves in it and were taken in another direction.
Radiohead are more like modern artists than a rock band. That's not a pretentious statement. That's what they are. Using sound instead of paint. And they're really good and when light is added in their live shows they're even better.
Not sure about the Beatles comparison. Pink Floyd would work better (and used to be common), but would still hit a wall quickly (no pun intended). As far as influence, Beatles inspired a lot of followers b/c they made it look easy to emulate them. Not sure anyone listens to OK Computer and says "I can do that, I'm going to start a band!"
Their influence is best served to inspire other bands to approach rock/electronic music as an art form rather than simply commerce (rather than just inspiring Coldplay to water-down their latest release).
I more or less agree with that.
sonickteam2
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 02:31 PM UTC
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perfectly said, Mobius.
i sometimes wish i didnt suck at writing.
ggw
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 02:33 PM UTC
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Radiohead is the second coming of Jesus Christ, our Lord. Their songs are parables that will lead us out of the darkness of our existential angst and into the light of eternal salvation.
nkotb
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 02:38 PM UTC
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Yikes…I guess I should've paid more than $2 for the download, then :eek:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Radiohead is the second coming of Jesus Christ, our Lord. Their songs are parables that will lead us out of the darkness of our existential angst and into the light of eternal salvation.
sonickteam2
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 02:41 PM UTC
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I am thoroughly disappointed to find out that so many ppl on here want their bands to be celebrities who play their hook and chorus laden songs at sold out stadium shows across the world.
Mobius
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
October 11, 2007 at 02:43 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Radiohead is the second coming of Jesus Christ, our Lord. Their songs are parables that will lead us out of the darkness of our existential angst and into the light of eternal salvation.
That's one way to look at it.
Are you sure you're not thinking of Justin Timberlake?