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HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07

SalParadise
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 01:49 PM UTC #
Originally posted by ixkpd-bk:
Fuck this pretentious bullshit.

Isn't 'All I Need' the BEST!?!

Seriously, I am in LOVE with it.
fuck it two times.

and yes it is. when that dirty ride cymbal comes in towards the end.. lovely.
paul3mac
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 02:10 PM UTC #
15 Step brings back lovely memories of Bonnaroo '06
eros
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 02:25 PM UTC #
Bodysnatchers is great, though it could easily have been written by Pearl Jam (that's not an insult, BTW).

I have to say that tune and "Jigsaw" are my faves, so place me firmly in the verse/chorus/verse camp.
Mobius
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 02:29 PM UTC #
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Mobius:
but the straightforward two-guitar rock song also felt quaint and provincial in the context.
From what province did it feel like?
All of them. I thought this Board looked down on the provinces. No? Just me?
sonickteam2
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 03:01 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Mobius:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Mobius:
but the straightforward two-guitar rock song also felt quaint and provincial in the context.
From what province did it feel like?
All of them. I thought this Board looked down on the provinces. No? Just me?
careful.
Brian_Walalce
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 03:40 PM UTC #
Ok. Cut the BS. Do you have to be drunk, stoned and/or high as a kite to enjoy this album?

Brian

P.S. Follow-up. Are the drugs you have to take to enjoy this album mainly ones that will keep you awake?
K8teebug
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 04:01 PM UTC #
I have been enjoying it while driving my car around this week…sober.
sweetcell
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 04:09 PM UTC #
Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by Mobius:
From what province did it feel like?
All of them. I thought this Board looked down on the provinces. No? Just me?
careful.
a province is just a state with the metric system and colourful money.
sonickteam2
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 04:53 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
Ok. Cut the BS. Do you have to be drunk, stoned and/or high as a kite to enjoy this album?

Brian

P.S. Follow-up. Are the drugs you have to take to enjoy this album mainly ones that will keep you awake?
whenever i read your posts, i can picture you saying them out loud, in one of those adolescent voices thats ever going from squeaky to deep and then back again. puberty is a tough time my friend…
callat703
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 05:20 PM UTC #
Quick - somebody tell me the last album to go platinum on the day it was released?

http://www.gigwise.com/news/37670/exclusive-radiohead-sell-12million-copies-of-in-rainbows

Gigwise Exclusive:

Radiohead Sell 1.2 Million Copies of "In Rainbows"

Gigwise has learnt that Radiohead have sold an amazing 1.2million copies of their seventh album â??In Rainbows.â??

The band and their long-term management company Courtyard Management have remained tight lipped about the exact sales figures, seemingly in a bid to add to keep a mysterious air around the album.

But speaking to a source close to the band last night, weâ??ve discovered that the Oxford band have achieved this monumental sales figure.

Even if every person who downloaded the album paid just 10 pence, the band will still rake in a massive £120,000. That figure is likely to be higher, with many speculating the average figure will even out at around the £1 mark.

With growing media hype around the release of â??In Rainbowsâ??, these unprecedented sales figures look certain to keep on rising. If they finally announce a world tour, audience figures are expected to be higher too.

Thom Yorke and co. will cash in again when the payments clear for the â??In Rainbowsâ?? box set which are on sale for £40 a go.

As expected, Radiohead are the clear victors of this radical way of releasing their album. Their success should prompt other big names to follow suit.
kosmo
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 05:50 PM UTC #
Originally posted by callat703:
Quick - somebody tell me the last album to go platinum on the day it was released?

It use to happen when awards were based on the number of units shipped, but not actually sold… They have since then changed the rules to allow for things like actual sales numbers to be reported, returns, etc.
TheDirector217
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 06:27 PM UTC #
Originally posted by callat703:
Quick - somebody tell me the last album to go platinum on the day it was released?
Calm down, man. First off, it wasn't all in one day. Furthermore, there's no regualted price NOR is there ANY way these numbers have been or can be confirmed. The album's been available for more or less two weeks. Plus these downloads have been available WORLDWIDE. That averages out to, even assuming these numbers are anything close to accurate - which I'm quite sure they aren't, 600,000 copies a week. Kanye scanned 900,000 copies in the U.S. alone his first week out (9/11/07) with Graduation. If you really wanna get techinical WORLDWIDE, 50 Cent's new Curtis LP just moved 2 million copies worldwide in the 1st week of release. That's not shipped, that's actual soundscan numbers/units sold. This shit is hardly unprecendented. Just to answer your question.

*50 Cent's The Massacre was the last album to go platinum in 1 week. 1.1 Soundscanned copies in the 1st week of release. 2005, I believe.* (Norah Jones did it, too, but with her second album in '04.)

Can you please start doing some research before you shoot off these unfactual, biased, fanboy fantasies of yours??? I admire your loyalty to your favorite group & all. It's as heartwarming as a Disney movie. Plus I will concede even in disagreement & delusion, you are quite polite.

Just, facts man. They're real important. Facts, homey.
sonickteam2
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 06:35 PM UTC #
Originally posted by TheDirector217:

Just, facts man. They're real important. Facts, homey.
you act like all you ever speak is facts.

puhllleazzeee!!!
callat703
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 06:37 PM UTC #
Originally posted by TheDirector217:

Can you please start doing some research before you shoot off these unfactual, biased, fanboy fantasies of yours??? I admire your loyalty to your favorite group & all. It's as heartwarming as a Disney movie. Plus I will concede even in disagreement & delusion, you are quite polite.

Just, facts man. They're real important. Facts, homey.
Dude, again, I didn't make ANY claim at all. I asked a question, which you answered. Calm yourself.

If you'd read my posts, as opposed to reading into them, you'd recognize that with maybe one exception (and even in that case - related to Radiohead's ticket sales compared to U2 - I didn't claim it to be fact) on this thread, I haven't claimed anything that I've said is "fact."
kosmo
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 07:17 PM UTC #
Friday is known in these parts as Grump Day :)
TheDirector217
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 07:31 PM UTC #
Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:

Can you please start doing some research before you shoot off these unfactual, biased, fanboy fantasies of yours??? I admire your loyalty to your favorite group & all. It's as heartwarming as a Disney movie. Plus I will concede even in disagreement & delusion, you are quite polite.

Just, facts man. They're real important. Facts, homey.
Dude, again, I didn't make ANY claim at all. I asked a question, which you answered. Calm yourself.

If you'd read my posts, as opposed to reading into them, you'd recognize that with maybe one exception (and even in that case - related to Radiohead's ticket sales compared to U2 - I didn't claim it to be fact) on this thread, I haven't claimed anything that I've said is "fact."
Originally posted by callat703:
Sure - method of distribution is still about the music itself. This goes back to the argument that Julian was having - sure, bands have done it before, but NEVER anybody with the reach, market power, or reputation that Radiohead has. If it isn't Radiohead, that story isn't on the front page of ANY of those news sites.
Market power, reach, & reputation. Very important. I already told you why the Pumpkins didn't get this much attention for it back on page 6. But I will speak to these 3 above factors I just named:

Market Power & Reach: The Pumpkins moved far more units than Radiohead & Mellon Collie/Siamese Dream spawned plenty of imitators that decade. Even to this day. One of my personal favorite new rock bands happens to sound kinda like The Pumpkins actually, I doubt it's deliberate (only because I know them personally) - but it is what it is.

Reputation: Siamese Dream has been referred to by some boardies here & several critics as THE seminal 90s rock album. The Pumpkins in the 90s enjoyed a high level of critical AND commercial success which is quite rare. It's usually one or the other. Moreso, critical for Radiohead, as a decent amount of critics fawn over them as well - though nowhere near the level of you.


Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
No, like I said earlier, Radiohead are my second favorite band. I just find it ridiculous the levels some of you are taking some of this. Radiohead is not the biggest band in the world, nor does media coverage over a detail only tangentially related to their musical output constitute an affirmation that they're the modern day Beatles. If I ever said any of this nonsense, I'd get flamed so quickly your head would spin.
See, I disagree with you. I would contend that Radiohead is the biggest band in the world.
Julian, an admitted Radiohead fan, said you were wrong. You "contend" the opposite. Sounds like a fact to me.

Originally posted by callat703:
But I'm not ready to concede on those other points yet…
Right after you admitted you were wrong about the U2 ticket sales argument. Again. Something you stated as fact.


Originally posted by callat703:
Quick - somebody tell me the last album to go platinum on the day it was released?

http://www.gigwise.com/news/37670/exclusive-radiohead-sell-12million-copies-of-in-rainbows
You specifically said, "tell me the LAST album to go platinum the day it was released," IMPLYING the last album BEFORE this one. I already shot down that one. Go back & read it again. You started with that sentence, then provided a link. Would that not constitute something you believe to be fact??? I speak OK English, so I'll draw a parallel with imperative sentences.

e.g. If Momma 703, says "Take out the trash," That implies an imperative sentence. Now it doesn't say (You) Take out the trash, but it is already implied & known. Much like the off base statement you make saying Radiohead went platinum in one day. Which in post was perceived to be factual by way of your wording. But it seems you are now backtracking, as you have with the rest of your statements you made this week. The two words "I think" are very powerful. It's one thing if you're like sonick, & you're all "I THINK Radiohead's the best, you can't tell me shit. End of story." Then that's cool. But you're talking about they'd sell more tix than U2, their "market reach" is unparalleled, & all this other shit. And without an "in my opinion" & "I think", henceforth one would believe you think them as fact. You seem like a nice guy, but a little out of touch. Think of me as a distributor of reality.

I'll be quite honest & say if not for your presence here in this thread, I wouldn't have popped up so much. Probably not at all. Having opinions are great. It's the reason we even have a board like this. But it's like, again by way of your wording, it's as if you believe a lotta this shit you type to be gospel truth. One or two woulda been bearable, but you just kept going. Nothing personal at all, it's just I want you to have correct information combined with the fact you take fanboy to a whole 'nother realm. I simply took it upon myself to give you some actual facts about the situation. But I shot down so many of your facts, it's to the point that I lost count . . .

;)
callat703
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 07:55 PM UTC #
Jesus.

For one, the only statement you just quoted that could be interpreted as a factual statement is the one about the free release. And I think you're absolutely wrong to say the Pumpkins were as big or bigger when they released MACHINA II. The Pumpkins are my favorite band of all time, and you're wrong if you believe they were bigger in 2000 than Radiohead is now. Plain and simple. You can't argue that moving more albums is indicative of being "bigger" comparing sales in the '90s to today. It isn't a relevant gauge anymore. You want to debate that, fine - I'll get back to you on it when I have the time to look at numbers. I don't right now.

And I would "contend" that Radiohead is the biggest band in the world. There is no "factual" way of determining that. Hence "contend," which would imply that there is contention, which would imply that there are multiple ways of defining or determining "the biggest." There is no factual, correct answer to the question, "Who is the biggest band in the world?" I also went on to say that I think U2 would be the other band in the discussion. Look at the thread:

"Actually, at this point? I think Radiohead could equal U2 in ticket sales.

But you're absolutely right - I think U2 is the only other band you can include in that discussion. Bruce & The E Street are more about Bruce than they are the "band.""


I never said "Radiohead outsells U2," which would be how one phrases a fact. I went on to say you were right. And you're right - "I think" and "in my opinion" are strong clarifications. That's why I've used them in almost every post I've made on this subject.

And finally, I'm fed up. You have the nerve to say something like:

"But it's like, again by way of your wording, you believe a lotta this shit you type to be gospel truth. One or two woulda been bearable, but you just kept going. Nothing personal at all, it's just I want you to have correct information combined with the fact you take fanboy to a whole 'nother realm."

Fuck off. You're twisting what I've written in two minute breaks at work to indict my level of knowledge of or attention to the music industry? And then claiming some holier than thou "distributor of reality?" Get over yourself. You a) don't have a clue what I know and what I don't, because this is a distraction for me, rather than something I'm going to spend a half an hour researching and writing up for some wanker like you to tear apart, and b) don't have any more credibility than I do. You're a name on a message board. You've seen a lot of shows and you dig the Police. You think I know a damn thing about what you know and what you don't when it comes to music?

Maybe the point here is that I don't take myself NEARLY as seriously as you do. Calm the fuck down and back the fuck off.
Mobius
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 07:57 PM UTC #
When Smashing Pumpkins released Machina II on the internet, it was the equivalent of a straight-to-DVD movie release. The band was dead. Credibility w/ fans rapidly deteriorated from '96 on and was non-existant by 2000. Machina I tanked and I think they had trouble finding a label to release Machina II.

Now let's talk about how Kanye went from the future to tedius in 3 easy steps. He was a breath of fresh air and now he's no different from 50 - like the Times Square of hip-hop; hip-hop for tourists.
manimtired
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 07:59 PM UTC #
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:

Can you please start doing some research before you shoot off these unfactual, biased, fanboy fantasies of yours??? I admire your loyalty to your favorite group & all. It's as heartwarming as a Disney movie. Plus I will concede even in disagreement & delusion, you are quite polite.

Just, facts man. They're real important. Facts, homey.
Dude, again, I didn't make ANY claim at all. I asked a question, which you answered. Calm yourself.

If you'd read my posts, as opposed to reading into them, you'd recognize that with maybe one exception (and even in that case - related to Radiohead's ticket sales compared to U2 - I didn't claim it to be fact) on this thread, I haven't claimed anything that I've said is "fact."
Originally posted by callat703:
Sure - method of distribution is still about the music itself. This goes back to the argument that Julian was having - sure, bands have done it before, but NEVER anybody with the reach, market power, or reputation that Radiohead has. If it isn't Radiohead, that story isn't on the front page of ANY of those news sites.
Market power, reach, & reputation. Very important. I already told you why the Pumpkins didn't get this much attention for it back on page 6. But I will speak to these 3 above factors I just named:

Market Power & Reach: The Pumpkins moved far more units than Radiohead & Mellon Collie/Siamese Dream spawned plenty of imitators that decade. Even to this day. One of my personal favorite new rock bands happens to sound kinda like The Pumpkins actually, I doubt it's deliberate (only because I know them personally) - but it is what it is.

Reputation: Siamese Dream has been referred to by some boardies here & several critics as THE seminal 90s rock album. The Pumpkins in the 90s enjoyed a high level of critical AND commercial success which is quite rare. It's usually one or the other. Moreso, critical for Radiohead, as a decent amount of critics fawn over them as well - though nowhere near the level of you.


Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
No, like I said earlier, Radiohead are my second favorite band. I just find it ridiculous the levels some of you are taking some of this. Radiohead is not the biggest band in the world, nor does media coverage over a detail only tangentially related to their musical output constitute an affirmation that they're the modern day Beatles. If I ever said any of this nonsense, I'd get flamed so quickly your head would spin.
See, I disagree with you. I would contend that Radiohead is the biggest band in the world.
Julian, an admitted Radiohead fan, said you were wrong. You "contend" the opposite. Sounds like a fact to me.

Originally posted by callat703:
But I'm not ready to concede on those other points yet…
Right after you admitted you were wrong about the U2 ticket sales argument. Again. Something you stated as fact.


Originally posted by callat703:
Quick - somebody tell me the last album to go platinum on the day it was released?

http://www.gigwise.com/news/37670/exclusive-radiohead-sell-12million-copies-of-in-rainbows
You specifically said, "tell me the LAST album to go platinum the day it was released," IMPLYING the last album BEFORE this one. I already shot down that one. Go back & read it again. You started with that sentence, then provided a link. Would that not constitute something you believe to be fact??? I speak OK English, so I'll draw a parallel with imperative sentences.

e.g. If Momma 703, says "Take out the trash," That implies an imperative sentence. Now it doesn't say (You) Take out the trash, but it is already implied & known. Much like the off base statement you make saying Radiohead went platinum in one day. Which in post was perceived to be factual by way of your wording. But it seems you are now backtracking, as you have with the rest of your statements you made this week. The two words "I think" are very powerful. It's one thing if you're like sonick, & you're all "I THINK Radiohead's the best, you can't tell me shit. End of story." Then that's cool. But you're talking about they'd sell more tix than U2, their "market reach" is unparalleled, & all this other shit. And without an "in my opinion" & "I think", henceforth one would believe you think them as fact. You seem like a nice guy, but a little out of touch. Think of me as a distributor of reality.

I'll be quite honest & say if not for your presence here in this thread, I wouldn't have popped up so much. Probably not at all. Having opinions are great. It's the reason we even have a board like this. But it's like, again by way of your wording, it's as if you believe a lotta this shit you type to be gospel truth. One or two woulda been bearable, but you just kept going. Nothing personal at all, it's just I want you to have correct information combined with the fact you take fanboy to a whole 'nother realm. I simply took it upon myself to give you some actual facts about the situation. But I shot down so many of your facts, it's to the point that I lost count . . .

:D
Brian_Walalce
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07 October 12, 2007 at 08:11 PM UTC #
Let me ammend my previous statement. (In addition to U2, The Smashing Pumpkins and Radiohead…) The Director, Le Sonick, Call At 703 and Julian also enjoy the smell of their own farts.

It's going to be a fantastic, cool, crisp weekend on the East Coast, boys. Go outside, take a hike (maybe even take Radiohead's "The Rainbow Connection" along on your Walkman!), breathe some fresh air, go fishing, throw a football…relax…chill out. You're taking this "internet" thing WAY too seriously.

Brian
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