ooh . . . burn.
Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
atomic wrote:DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:chaz wrote:ggw wrote:DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
none of these "leaks" are coming from anyone in that locker room.
Where are they coming from?
I think he's saying it's all coming from Shannehan.
I follow a few of the beat reporters on Twitter and read articles from the guys who are actually in contact with the players and in the locker room [or were] after games and during the week. Hell, most of the players even supported Shannahan and wanted him to stay. It's so odd. Everyone supported the coach AND the QB, and no one could figure out who was leaking this information. It just all stinks and points right back to the coach. It's so stupid. He's trying to protect himself and his legacy. Even his son is trying to distance himself from what his father is doing because he sees what a train wreck it was. He wanted to prove he was right by starting Kirk Cousins and it blew up in his face. Smeer everyone on the way out.
How was Shanahan stupid. He gets paid 7 million to do nothing this year. He is actually pretty smart.
I didn't say he was stupid, I said the situation is stupid. He got his money, he doesn't have to coach a team, I don't understand why he has to drag the owner and the quarterback down with him. Hence the pettiness.
walkonby wrote:Nothing against DFA1979. You see all these Landover fans coming out of the woodwork to trash a reporter's connections to the team based on…?? Its ridiculous, and it just shows inherent bias. Of course you're not going to like a report that makes RG3 look bad (and Shanahan look good/better by extension): RG3 is still on your favorite team and Shanahan is not. No one has ever quit being a fan of their favorite team because a coach was fired. (Excepting, of course, family members of said coaches.)
ooh . . . burn.
I mean, I don't really care for articles that make him out to be an angel. He's a human. For me it's more that this is an obvious smear campaign. People have said RG3 sucked since before we even drafted him, people are always going to say that. Hell, people say Peyton Manning sucks. It comes with being a sports fan. I just think this whole thing is ridiculous. He's on vacation with his wife and the team is looking for a coach. Everything about the old coach should have left with him.
Julian, wrote:walkonby wrote:Nothing against DFA1979. You see all these Landover fans coming out of the woodwork to trash a reporter's connections to the team based on…?? Its ridiculous, and it just shows inherent bias. Of course you're not going to like a report that makes RG3 look bad (and Shanahan look good/better by extension): RG3 is still on your favorite team and Shanahan is not. No one has ever quit being a fan of their favorite team because a coach was fired. (Excepting, of course, family members of said coaches.)
ooh . . . burn.
I stopped being a fan of the Capitals when Bruce Bordeau got fired.
So, you were a Capitals fan, and rooted for them to win, but when they fired a coach you lost all desire to continute rooting for that team? Were you just rooting for Bruce? Are you now rooting for the Ducks?
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
So, you were a Capitals fan, and rooted for them to win, but when they fired a coach you lost all desire to continute rooting for that team? Were you just rooting for Bruce? Are you now rooting for the Ducks?
No not rooting for anyone. The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap. And then when Hunter took over they were unwatchable. The unwatchable led to be stop rooting for the team. Then there was the lock-out which helped me become even less interested in the team, if that was even possible.
But I would rather Bruce win in Anaheim than the Capitals win. He seems like a nice guy and he really saved the franchise. He was rewarded by being fired.
atomic wrote:DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
So, you were a Capitals fan, and rooted for them to win, but when they fired a coach you lost all desire to continute rooting for that team? Were you just rooting for Bruce? Are you now rooting for the Ducks?
No not rooting for anyone. The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap. And then when Hunter took over they were unwatchable. The unwatchable led to be stop rooting for the team. Then there was the lock-out which helped me become even less interested in the team, if that was even possible.
But I would rather Bruce win in Anaheim than the Capitals win. He seems like a nice guy and he really saved the franchise. He was rewarded by being fired.
You're really an anti-fan. A fan supports the team he loves, regardless. You go to games to be entertained and to drink beer.
atomic wrote:DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
So, you were a Capitals fan, and rooted for them to win, but when they fired a coach you lost all desire to continute rooting for that team? Were you just rooting for Bruce? Are you now rooting for the Ducks?
No not rooting for anyone. The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap. And then when Hunter took over they were unwatchable. The unwatchable led to be stop rooting for the team. Then there was the lock-out which helped me become even less interested in the team, if that was even possible.
But I would rather Bruce win in Anaheim than the Capitals win. He seems like a nice guy and he really saved the franchise. He was rewarded by being fired.
So, if the Caps ever win a Cup you won't be happy? You're a loser.
I dont' know about this…
"Gruden's hire also brings him into a working marriage with Redskins general manager Bruce Allen, who worked for years with former Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden in Tampa Bay.
Darlington reported that Jim Haslett is expected to stay on as defensive coordinator. Gruden previously served under Haslett as offensive coordinator with the UFL's Florida Tuskers.
The Redskins also are expected to promote tight ends coach Sean McVay to offensive coordinator, according to ESPN."
"Gruden's hire also brings him into a working marriage with Redskins general manager Bruce Allen, who worked for years with former Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden in Tampa Bay.
Darlington reported that Jim Haslett is expected to stay on as defensive coordinator. Gruden previously served under Haslett as offensive coordinator with the UFL's Florida Tuskers.
The Redskins also are expected to promote tight ends coach Sean McVay to offensive coordinator, according to ESPN."
atomic wrote:
The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap.
WTF are you talking about? McPhee didn't force BB to play a trap defense.
Show me one credible link that says McPhee forced the trap.
Winning the President's Trophy, then losing in the first round of the playoffs with a leaky defense, precipitated a more conservative approach. The 'force' was the 7-0 loss to NYR after an 8 game losing streak the next season.
hutch wrote:
I dont' know about this…
"Gruden's hire also brings him into a working marriage with Redskins general manager Bruce Allen, who worked for years with former Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden in Tampa Bay.
Darlington reported that Jim Haslett is expected to stay on as defensive coordinator. Gruden previously served under Haslett as offensive coordinator with the UFL's Florida Tuskers.
The Redskins also are expected to promote tight ends coach Sean McVay to offensive coordinator, according to ESPN."
Also not a fan of him kind of being in bed with Bruce, but Raheem Morris was said to be bumped up to defensive coordinator [current defensive backs coach]. We'll see what he decides. This guy also had deep ties in Tennessee, but he was one of the top candidates. So we'll see what happens. I'll remain pessimistic.
slappy wrote:atomic wrote:
The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap.
WTF are you talking about? McPhee didn't force BB to play a trap defense.
Show me one credible link that says McPhee forced the trap.
Winning the President's Trophy, then losing in the first round of the playoffs with a leaky defense, precipitated a more conservative approach. The 'force' was the 7-0 loss to NYR after an 8 game losing streak the next season.
The team was branded as being shut down in the playoffs and could not keep teams off the score board so Bruce instilled a more defensive mindset and it failed. Dale Hunter came in and was all defense and didn't even really care about coaching the team, so he left. I have faith in Adam Oates. I like his offensive style, and there is a lot of young, tough talent on the team that is picking up the 3rd and 4th lines and on the defensive ends. Everyone's just got to start clicking heading into the Olympic break. Don't want to go into a funk before an extended break.
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:slappy wrote:atomic wrote:
The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap.
WTF are you talking about? McPhee didn't force BB to play a trap defense.
Show me one credible link that says McPhee forced the trap.
Winning the President's Trophy, then losing in the first round of the playoffs with a leaky defense, precipitated a more conservative approach. The 'force' was the 7-0 loss to NYR after an 8 game losing streak the next season.
The team was branded as being shut down in the playoffs and could not keep teams off the score board so Bruce instilled a more defensive mindset and it failed. Dale Hunter came in and was all defense and didn't even really care about coaching the team, so he left. I have faith in Adam Oates. I like his offensive style, and there is a lot of young, tough talent on the team that is picking up the 3rd and 4th lines and on the defensive ends. Everyone's just got to start clicking heading into the Olympic break. Don't want to go into a funk before an extended break.
I couldn't care less how they do this season or next. But I don't think the team has a lot of young talent. And you argued with me when I said the Erat was a bad deal. I think I have watched on game with Oates at the helm. It was boring. Bruce had the team playing exciting hockey. I watched him coach in Hershey and he made the game exciting there too. If all the coaches coached like Bruce the league would have a lot more fans. Anyway hockey is dead to me. I don't care what happens to the team. I wouldn't go to the game if you paid me.
Yet all that exciting hockey didn't translate into a Stanley Cup…
DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Yet all that exciting hockey didn't translate into a Stanley Cup…
All that boring hockey didn't lead to Stanley Cup either. If I am paying to go to a game or watching it on TV I want it to be intersting. But once again arguing with you is pointless as all you care about winning a championship and you always are terribly disappointed.
