Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux

hutch wrote:
its over…even snyder must know it..

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

RatBastard wrote:
This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names.  Your argument is weak.

RatBastard wrote:
This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

thank you for this. it's refreshing to see that someone is finally starting to speak out for the camels.

atomic wrote:

RatBastard wrote:
This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names.  Your argument is weak.

Oh, people are offended.

atomic wrote:

RatBastard wrote:
This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names.  Your argument is weak.

So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.

RatBastard wrote:

atomic wrote:

RatBastard wrote:
This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names.  Your argument is weak.

So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.

Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.

look its over.. the name has to go…its offensive to a lot of people…. even non-indians for crying out loud.

the crummy owner should get ahead of the story and change the name.. they could use a reboot anyways…. they've sucked since about 1993 for crying out loud.. that's more than two decades…

the owner should be smart and do it now.. not wait til his hand is ultimately forced which is what will happen… do it from a position of strength and maybe even exact some concessions in return

Exact concessions from whom?

Julian, wrote:
Exact concessions from whom?

The Indians of course.  Get some of that casino money.

atomic wrote:

Julian, wrote:
Exact concessions from whom?

The Indians of course.  Get some of that casino money.

Now that's the first reasonable thing I've heard all day!

concessions from the NFL of course and also from DC… they'll be moving back to DC at some point and getting a very nice stadium and everything they want as long as they change the frickin' name…

I can't speak to what the NFL could "give" Snyder but I'm sure they could work out some nice handshake deal… When was the last time Washington hosted the Super Bowl, for example?

atomic wrote:

RatBastard wrote:

atomic wrote:

RatBastard wrote:
This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names.  Your argument is weak.

So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.

Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.

The camel issue is a perfect example.  there are many people who are offended by the silly use of the term "n-word", as if we all don't know what word it refers to.  When discussing the word 'nigger' as offensive as it is, are we not grown up enough that we can actually say the word we are talking about rather than saying "n-word" as if it made things any better?  Truth be told 99% of the so called politically correct" terms are just plain offensive and silly.

hutch wrote:
look its over.. the name has to go…its offensive to a lot of people…. even non-indians for crying out loud.

the crummy owner should get ahead of the story and change the name.. they could use a reboot anyways…. they've sucked since about 1993 for crying out loud.. that's more than two decades…

the owner should be smart and do it now.. not wait til his hand is ultimately forced which is what will happen… do it from a position of strength and maybe even exact some concessions in return

EVERY word is offensive to some people.  I agree with you that sooner or later the name will change.  It has nothing to do with what is right or wrong though, it has more to do with the PC crap that has taken over the USA.

heck maybe- i know its outlandish- he could get some compensatory draft picks… additional cap space…a lower royalty rate on merch… I don't know…. I'm sure Snyder and the NFL lawyers can come up with something in private.

its embarrassing to the NFL to have the team with this name… make them pay for the embarrassment to go away..

RatBastard wrote:

atomic wrote:

RatBastard wrote:

atomic wrote:

RatBastard wrote:
This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names.  Your argument is weak.

So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.

Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.

The camel issue is a perfect example.  there are many people who are offended by the silly use of the term "n-word", as if we all don't know what word it refers to.  When discussing the word 'nigger' as offensive as it is, are we not grown up enough that we can actually say the word we are talking about rather than saying "n-word" as if it made things any better?  Truth be told 99% of the so called politically correct" terms are just plain offensive and silly.

I don't understand your point. I've never heard anyone offended by the euphemism "the n-word" being used in lieu of "nigger" and I live in a congressional district that just said Eric Cantor wasn't a sufficiently hateful, conservative loon for their liking.

I think atomic made an excellent point. He gave five other area sports team names and claims he's never heard anyone find their use offensive or racist. (Nor have I.) You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?

RatBastard wrote:

hutch wrote:
look its over.. the name has to go…its offensive to a lot of people…. even non-indians for crying out loud.

the crummy owner should get ahead of the story and change the name.. they could use a reboot anyways…. they've sucked since about 1993 for crying out loud.. that's more than two decades…

the owner should be smart and do it now.. not wait til his hand is ultimately forced which is what will happen… do it from a position of strength and maybe even exact some concessions in return

EVERY word is offensive to some people.  I agree with you that sooner or later the name will change.  It has nothing to do with what is right or wrong though, it has more to do with the PC crap that has taken over the USA.

Explain to whom and for what reason the word "and" is offensive. Hyperbole much?

Julian, wrote:
You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?

I was offended by the stupidity of naming them the Nationals…. they should have been the Senators.. the only saving grace is that people used to call the Senators "the Nats" and people now call the Nationals "the Nats"..

DC has a long tradition of stupidity in names… picking the Wizards for the NBA team comes to mind…

hutch wrote:

Julian, wrote:
You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?

I was offended by the stupidity of naming them the Nationals…. they should have been the Senators.. the only saving grace is that people used to call the Senators "the Nats" and people now call the Nationals "the Nats"..

DC has a long tradition of stupidity in names… picking the Wizards for the NBA team comes to mind…

You do understand that's a huge gulf between "not liking something and/or thinking it's stupid" vs "finding it racially offensive and having no place in civilized society."

Let's not conflate "this team name is dumb" with "this is a derogatory slur for an ethnicity."

Julian, wrote:

hutch wrote:

Julian, wrote:
You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?

I was offended by the stupidity of naming them the Nationals…. they should have been the Senators.. the only saving grace is that people used to call the Senators "the Nats" and people now call the Nationals "the Nats"..

DC has a long tradition of stupidity in names… picking the Wizards for the NBA team comes to mind…

You do understand that's a huge gulf between "not liking something and/or thinking it's stupid" vs "finding it racially offensive and having no place in civilized society."

Let's not conflate "this team name is dumb" with "this is a derogatory slur for an ethnicity."

yes I get it man.

but, stupidity also offends me… ;D