Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux

ggw wrote:
?The Washington Redskins announced today the 10 members of the organization selected to join the 70 Greatest Redskins named in 2002 and complete the 80 Greatest Redskins of All-Time,? the team?s Web site announced in the summer of 2012. That?s a bunch of greatness in one sentence. Former linebacker LaVar Arrington was among the 10 men ?selected by fans and a blue ribbon panel? to join that list of great Redskins.

But being named a Redskins great is different than marketing yourself as a Redskins great, and so Dan Snyder recently sent Arrington a cease-and-desist letter about a flier for his football tackling camps that refers to him as a ?Redskins great? and includes a photo of him in a Redskins uniform.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/daniel-snyder-issues-cease-and-desist-letter-to–former-redskins-great–lavar-arrington-173522524.html

Snyder is a real-life troll.

atomic wrote:

ggw wrote:
?The Washington Redskins announced today the 10 members of the organization selected to join the 70 Greatest Redskins named in 2002 and complete the 80 Greatest Redskins of All-Time,? the team?s Web site announced in the summer of 2012. That?s a bunch of greatness in one sentence. Former linebacker LaVar Arrington was among the 10 men ?selected by fans and a blue ribbon panel? to join that list of great Redskins.

But being named a Redskins great is different than marketing yourself as a Redskins great, and so Dan Snyder recently sent Arrington a cease-and-desist letter about a flier for his football tackling camps that refers to him as a ?Redskins great? and includes a photo of him in a Redskins uniform.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/daniel-snyder-issues-cease-and-desist-letter-to–former-redskins-great–lavar-arrington-173522524.html

Snyder is a real-life troll.

you just wish the fans would boycott the team until he sold it…if nobody went to the games or bought all that gear…. they are very very profitable.. the minute they win 3 games in a row everybody forgets about snyder

I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.

Julian, wrote:
I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.

I could support that…

Sterling the more I think about it the more I think he's going senile…. his recent statements on Magic for example…

I actually am not sure the NBA is within its rights to take away his team…..as much as I disagree with the statements he made

hutch wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.

I could support that…

Sterling the more I think about it the more I think he's going senile…. his recent statements on Magic for example…

I actually am not sure the NBA is within its rights to take away his team…..as much as I disagree with the statements he made

I agree they have the right to take it away even if he has full blown dementia. How they take away his separated wife's 50% stake legally… completely other issue. She was spot on with her rhetorical question to Walters asking if an owners wife said something like this, do we believe for one second they'd take the team away from the male?

Julian, wrote:

hutch wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.

I could support that…

Sterling the more I think about it the more I think he's going senile…. his recent statements on Magic for example…

I actually am not sure the NBA is within its rights to take away his team…..as much as I disagree with the statements he made

I agree they have the right to take it away even if he has full blown dementia. How they take away his separated wife's 50% stake legally… completely other issue. She was spot on with her rhetorical question to Walters asking if an owners wife said something like this, do we believe for one second they'd take the team away from the male?

well I'm not sure… I don't like what he said… and maybe he has been a bad owner…but if he's going senile.. i mean is there something in the NBA that says we take away teams from owners saying stupid shit cause they're going senile..

cause he ain't the first owner to go senile… so its like "oh we only take it away if you're going senile and get caught sayign stupid shit?"

Julian, wrote:
I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.

I agree.  If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that.  It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone.  See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.

atomic wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.

I agree.  If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that.  It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone.  See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.

So you support Sterling's appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean "friend"?

ggw wrote:

atomic wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.

I agree.  If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that.  It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone.  See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.

So you support Sterling's appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean "friend"?

Yeah you should be able to say whatever you want in your own home. 

<a href="http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2014/05/06/sympathy-for-the-christian-bigot/">This should clear things up.</a>

atomic wrote:

ggw wrote:

atomic wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I feel if the NFL had any balls, they&#039;d copy the NBA&#039;s example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING&#039;S COMMENTS.

I agree.&nbsp; If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that.&nbsp; It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone.&nbsp; See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.

So you support Sterling&#039;s appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean &quot;friend&quot;?

Yeah you should be able to say whatever you want in your own home.&nbsp;

He can say what her wants without prosecution.  But he owns a franchise.  And the other 29 owners have a right to protect their brand.

chaz wrote:

atomic wrote:

ggw wrote:

atomic wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I feel if the NFL had any balls, they&#039;d copy the NBA&#039;s example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING&#039;S COMMENTS.

I agree.&nbsp; If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that.&nbsp; It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone.&nbsp; See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.

So you support Sterling&#039;s appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean &quot;friend&quot;?

Yeah you should be able to say whatever you want in your own home.&nbsp;

He can say what her wants without prosecution.&nbsp; But he owns a franchise.&nbsp; And the other 29 owners have to right to protect their brand.

No they don't.  Why do they care what he says at home.  I am sure if you put microphones in the homes of NBA players they would say all sorts of stuff that would hurt the NBA.  It is an invasion of privacy and he is allowed to have his views in private that are his own.  This is a horrible path to set.  He should sue them for everything they have.  If he was a press conference and said things like this than it hurts the league and they can throw him out. 

atomic wrote:

chaz wrote:

atomic wrote:

ggw wrote:

atomic wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I feel if the NFL had any balls, they&#039;d copy the NBA&#039;s example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING&#039;S COMMENTS.

I agree.&nbsp; If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that.&nbsp; It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone.&nbsp; See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.

So you support Sterling&#039;s appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean &quot;friend&quot;?

Yeah you should be able to say whatever you want in your own home.&nbsp;

He can say what her wants without prosecution.&nbsp; But he owns a franchise.&nbsp; And the other 29 owners have to right to protect their brand.

No they don&#039;t.&nbsp; Why do they care what he says at home.&nbsp; I am sure if you put microphones in the homes of NBA players they would say all sorts of stuff that would hurt the NBA.&nbsp; It is an invasion of privacy and he is allowed to have his views in private that are his own.&nbsp; This is a horrible path to set.&nbsp; He should sue them for everything they have.&nbsp; If he was a press conference and said things like this than it hurts the league and they can throw him out.&nbsp;

I think the woman that taped this and leaked it is a horrible human being.  On this I'm sure we agree.  I'm also sure that some of the other owners and players are horrible people who say horrible and hateful things all the time that never get heard.  But the bullet has left the gun.  Time and place and context do not matter a this point.  And this is a franchise, other peoples financial interests are at stake and subject to VERY significant damage.  I think they are within their rights to protect these interests.

chaz wrote:

atomic wrote:

chaz wrote:

atomic wrote:

ggw wrote:

atomic wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I feel if the NFL had any balls, they&#039;d copy the NBA&#039;s example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING&#039;S COMMENTS.

I agree.&nbsp; If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that.&nbsp; It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone.&nbsp; See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.

So you support Sterling&#039;s appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean &quot;friend&quot;?

Yeah you should be able to say whatever you want in your own home.&nbsp;

He can say what her wants without prosecution.&nbsp; But he owns a franchise.&nbsp; And the other 29 owners have to right to protect their brand.

No they don&#039;t.&nbsp; Why do they care what he says at home.&nbsp; I am sure if you put microphones in the homes of NBA players they would say all sorts of stuff that would hurt the NBA.&nbsp; It is an invasion of privacy and he is allowed to have his views in private that are his own.&nbsp; This is a horrible path to set.&nbsp; He should sue them for everything they have.&nbsp; If he was a press conference and said things like this than it hurts the league and they can throw him out.&nbsp;

I think the woman that taped this and leaked it is a horrible human being.&nbsp; On this I&#039;m sure we agree.&nbsp; I&#039;m also sure that some of the other owners and players are horrible people who say horrible and hateful things all the time that never get heard.&nbsp; But the bullet has left the gun.&nbsp; Time and place and context do not matter a this point.&nbsp; And this is a franchise, other peoples financial interests are at stake and subject to VERY significant damage.&nbsp; I think they are within their rights to protect these interests.

Well the league may or may not be within their rights to protect these interets…Sterling may be iwthin his rights to protect his interests from significant damage.

It will come down to the courts…. there are arguments for both sides… I don't think anybody can say with any level of certitude whether this should shake out, legally speaking, one way or the other..

Taking away people's property is not a simple matter even if at first glance it looks to be so…. Mark Cuban made a comment yesterday that taken out of context, and combined with his prior history as an owner, could result in the Sterling precedent being used on him… One could argue Cuban has done more that could be construed as being against the league's interests than Sterling…

Lets also be clear… the man is 82 years old and may be losing his mind…

Don't you see this guy holding on for another year or two, then eventually changing the name in an unwritten exchange for getting a Super Bowl at his new domed stadium in DC? If he can make a buck on it, I have a feeling he will be in.

phillidan wrote:
Don&#039;t you see this guy holding on for another year or two, then eventually changing the name in an unwritten exchange for getting a Super Bowl at his new domed stadium in DC? If he can make a buck on it, I have a feeling he will be in.

that's a great point.

oh snap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE

more on the above:

Opponents to run anti-'Redskins' ad
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11061396/opponents-run-anti-washington-redskins-ad-nba-finals

its over…even snyder must know it..