Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:I'm pretty sure they all wrote in Romney.
DISCLAIMER: I voted McCain, but only to bolster my LNS-TV-show application.
DC Area Voters
Honestly, after the last 8 years, that's about the extent of my political leanings. Let's hope this shit doesn't get worse and make a change for the better.
Originally posted by manimtired:
who needs the element of trust when obama is offering "hope" and "change"…wtf. :roll:
Originally posted by eros:You're right, the much more organized RNC (the people who won in 2004 simply by labeling Kerry as a "flip flopper") aren't going to be able to crush the inexperienced junior senator from Illinois who has never accomplished a single thing, nor attached his name to any piece of significant legislation, in his 4 years in office. In "time of war," that's exactly who America's going to vote for.
This seems like a dumb idea BTW - if I were a Republican and could vote for either party in the primary I'd push to get Hillary in the general election knowing she would get killed there. If one person can unite the divided Republican party, it's Hillary Clinton.
Hillary is far more electable then Obama. Some people dislike her but those people wouldn't vote for Obama anyway. The hardcore republicans who hate Hillary weren't going to vote for any democrat. I'm seriously amazed repeatedly at how stupid democrats are about these things. They'll all be shocked – SHOCKED!! – in November when Obama loses by 10% in the popular vote and whine about the Republicans' dirty tricks, even though they're entirely foreseeable.
Originally posted by eros:Mormons are SOOOOOOOOOOO turbo.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:I'm pretty sure they all wrote in Romney.
DISCLAIMER: I voted McCain, but only to bolster my LNS-TV-show application.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:Can't you just whip out your junk and ask them how they like that Republican cock?
DISCLAIMER: I voted McCain, but only to bolster my LNS-TV-show application.
Originally posted by Relaxer:If I make it to the interview phase, yes. It seems tacky to affix a polaroid with my application though.
Can't you just whip out your junk and ask them how they like that Republican cock?
but barack is offering hope AND change!!
Originally posted by manimtired:I call it chopange!
but barack is offering hope AND change!!
I don't think the argument is that the people who dislike Hillary would have bvoted for Obama.
The argument is that a number of disenchanted fatass Republicans who would have otherwise not voted will swarm to the polls just to have the chance of beating down Hillary. With Barack it it, they would have just sat home.
The argument is that a number of disenchanted fatass Republicans who would have otherwise not voted will swarm to the polls just to have the chance of beating down Hillary. With Barack it it, they would have just sat home.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by eros:You're right, the much more organized RNC (the people who won in 2004 simply by labeling Kerry as a "flip flopper") aren't going to be able to crush the inexperienced junior senator from Illinois who has never accomplished a single thing, nor attached his name to any piece of significant legislation, in his 4 years in office. In "time of war," that's exactly who America's going to vote for.
This seems like a dumb idea BTW - if I were a Republican and could vote for either party in the primary I'd push to get Hillary in the general election knowing she would get killed there. If one person can unite the divided Republican party, it's Hillary Clinton.
Hillary is far more electable then Obama. Some people dislike her but those people wouldn't vote for Obama anyway. The hardcore republicans who hate Hillary weren't going to vote for any democrat. I'm seriously amazed repeatedly at how stupid democrats are about these things. They'll all be shocked – SHOCKED!! – in November when Obama loses by 10% in the popular vote and whine about the Republicans' dirty tricks, even though they're entirely foreseeable.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I don't think the argument is that the people who dislike Hillary would have bvoted for Obama.
The argument is that a number of disenchanted fatass Republicans who would have otherwise not voted will swarm to the polls just to have the chance of beating down Hillary. With Barack it it, they would have just sat home.
"fatass" republicans?? micheal moore is about twice the size of rush limbaugh.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by eros:You're right, the much more organized RNC (the people who won in 2004 simply by labeling Kerry as a "flip flopper") aren't going to be able to crush the inexperienced junior senator from Illinois who has never accomplished a single thing, nor attached his name to any piece of significant legislation, in his 4 years in office. In "time of war," that's exactly who America's going to vote for.
This seems like a dumb idea BTW - if I were a Republican and could vote for either party in the primary I'd push to get Hillary in the general election knowing she would get killed there. If one person can unite the divided Republican party, it's Hillary Clinton.
Hillary is far more electable then Obama. Some people dislike her but those people wouldn't vote for Obama anyway. The hardcore republicans who hate Hillary weren't going to vote for any democrat. I'm seriously amazed repeatedly at how stupid democrats are about these things. They'll all be shocked – SHOCKED!! – in November when Obama loses by 10% in the popular vote and whine about the Republicans' dirty tricks, even though they're entirely foreseeable.
Originally posted by manimtired:way to buy in to the media soundbites
but barack is offering hope AND change!!
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:With all due respect, that's possibly an even dumber argument. Give the RNC some credit, they've done a wonderful job of "firing up their base," "getting out the vote," and "vilifying their opponent regardless who it is" over the last 2 decades. This thought that somehow the prospect of Obama v. McCain is going to lull Republicans to inactivity is pretty ludicrous. :roll:
The argument is that a number of disenchanted fatass Republicans who would have otherwise not voted will swarm to the polls just to have the chance of beating down Hillary. With Barack it it, they would have just sat home.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:47% of people start out knowing they arent going to vote for Hillary, but go ahead and convince yourself she is more electable
You're right, the much more organized RNC (the people who won in 2004 simply by labeling Kerry as a "flip flopper") aren't going to be able to crush the inexperienced junior senator from Illinois who has never accomplished a single thing, nor attached his name to any piece of significant legislation, in his 4 years in office. In "time of war," that's exactly who America's going to vote for.
Hillary is far more electable then Obama. Some people dislike her but those people wouldn't vote for Obama anyway. The hardcore republicans who hate Hillary weren't going to vote for any democrat. I'm seriously amazed repeatedly at how stupid democrats are about these things. They'll all be shocked – SHOCKED!! – in November when Obama loses by 10% in the popular vote and whine about the Republicans' dirty tricks, even though they're entirely foreseeable.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:You're wrong.
Originally posted by eros:You're right, the much more organized RNC (the people who won in 2004 simply by labeling Kerry as a "flip flopper") aren't going to be able to crush the inexperienced junior senator from Illinois who has never accomplished a single thing, nor attached his name to any piece of significant legislation, in his 4 years in office. In "time of war," that's exactly who America's going to vote for.
This seems like a dumb idea BTW - if I were a Republican and could vote for either party in the primary I'd push to get Hillary in the general election knowing she would get killed there. If one person can unite the divided Republican party, it's Hillary Clinton.
Hillary is far more electable then Obama. Some people dislike her but those people wouldn't vote for Obama anyway. The hardcore republicans who hate Hillary weren't going to vote for any democrat. I'm seriously amazed repeatedly at how stupid democrats are about these things. They'll all be shocked – SHOCKED!! – in November when Obama loses by 10% in the popular vote and whine about the Republicans' dirty tricks, even though they're entirely foreseeable.
As the open primaries have shown, independent voters like both McCain and Obama, but more of them turn out to vote for Obama. Moreover, the "hardcore" GOP voters won't show up for McCain. They'll just sit the election out. Rove's big contribution to 2004 was getting those hardcore fundies to turn out in droves.
I don't care who you vote for - just vote today.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:The base isnt going to get up for McCain, there is no doubt that the Republicans will find a way to attack him, but to think that evangelicals and litmus test conservatives will be enthusiastically behind mccain is crazy.
With all due respect, that's possibly an even dumber argument. Give the RNC some credit, they've done a wonderful job of "firing up their base," "getting out the vote," and "vilifying their opponent" over the last 2 decades. This thought that somehow the prospect of Obama v. McCain is going to lull Republicans to inactivity is pretty ludicrous. :roll:
Don't believe me, just watch. I still think Hillary's going to get the nomination through backroom bartering with the superdelegates, but if Obama runs, I'll put $5 out there to as many people who want to take the bet that Obama loses by a larger margin in the popular vote then Kerry in 2004.
Originally posted by pdx pollard:a majority of the drones voting for this clown are motivated by "hope AND change" and have no clue what his positions are…
Originally posted by manimtired:way to buy in to the media soundbites
but barack is offering hope AND change!!
he's a charismatic guy…
McCain is one temper trantrum away from being another of those namvets you see at almost every intersection with the hand written, mispelled signs that read….
"nam vet, hungrey, pleese help, God bless"
Huckabee is just another christian religous fruitloop and I think we've had enough of those for the foreseeable future.
Obama in the whitehouse is like making the mail clerk VP of operations. Can you honestly imagine him in intense negotiations with N. Korea or China? They'd eat the poor chap alive.
Hillary is, well, Hillary, but at least we'd have Bill in the Whitehouse, and I don't know about anyone else, but the last time I felt good about this country was when slick-Bill was running the show. Besides, I get great entertainment listening to the right-wing morons on am radio still pissing and moaning about Clinton and the blokes been gone 8 years. Maybe a few of them would go over the edge if another Clinton got in, and that can only be a good thing.
Nader, if he runs, is basically a vote for the republican, whoever it is, but if it makes you feel all indie and cool to vote for him knock yourself out. It was him and the Supreme Court that put the prick we have in the Whitehouse at the moment.
In a country of over 300 million people these are the best they can come up with for a leader???!!!! :eek:
My mother taught me that if you don't have anything good to say about someone then don't say anything, so with that logic I'd have to skip my visit to the polling station in November. It's like deciding wether you'd like to be kicked squarely in the nuts by a Kansas farm hand wearing steel tipped boots or have a rusty tent peg rammed up your rectum, then hammered home with a rubber mallet. Choices, choices, choices…
"nam vet, hungrey, pleese help, God bless"
Huckabee is just another christian religous fruitloop and I think we've had enough of those for the foreseeable future.
Obama in the whitehouse is like making the mail clerk VP of operations. Can you honestly imagine him in intense negotiations with N. Korea or China? They'd eat the poor chap alive.
Hillary is, well, Hillary, but at least we'd have Bill in the Whitehouse, and I don't know about anyone else, but the last time I felt good about this country was when slick-Bill was running the show. Besides, I get great entertainment listening to the right-wing morons on am radio still pissing and moaning about Clinton and the blokes been gone 8 years. Maybe a few of them would go over the edge if another Clinton got in, and that can only be a good thing.
Nader, if he runs, is basically a vote for the republican, whoever it is, but if it makes you feel all indie and cool to vote for him knock yourself out. It was him and the Supreme Court that put the prick we have in the Whitehouse at the moment.
In a country of over 300 million people these are the best they can come up with for a leader???!!!! :eek:
My mother taught me that if you don't have anything good to say about someone then don't say anything, so with that logic I'd have to skip my visit to the polling station in November. It's like deciding wether you'd like to be kicked squarely in the nuts by a Kansas farm hand wearing steel tipped boots or have a rusty tent peg rammed up your rectum, then hammered home with a rubber mallet. Choices, choices, choices…
Originally posted by pdx pollard:They'll be enthusiastically against whoever is on the Democratic side of the ticket. Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.
to think that evangelicals and litmus test conservatives will be enthusiastically behind mccain is crazy.