Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:Sure, I'd be glad to. He was elected as both Attorney General and Governor of the State of Arkansas. As governor, he gained 12 years of executive branch experience, I believe making him the longest serving governor in the country at the time of his election to the White House (I believe he also chaired the National Governors Association as well). During his tenure, he was credited with vastly improving the state's educational system and achieving astronomic job and economic growth for the state. He also championed better conditions for seniors with cutting sales tax on medicines and raising the property tax exemption for the elderly. He also headed the Democratic Leadership Council for two years where he gained experience in working within his party on the national level.
Please give me a list of achievements that Bill Clinton had made in his political career prior to election as President.
DC Area Voters
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:all that while seducing new ladies on a weekly basis.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:Sure, I'd be glad to. He was elected as both Attorney General and Governor of the State of Arkansas. As governor, he gained 12 years of executive branch experience, I believe making him the longest serving governor in the country at the time of his election to the White House (I believe he also chaired the National Governors Association as well). During his tenure, he was credited with vastly improving the state's educational system and achieving astronomic job and economic growth for the state. He also championed better conditions for seniors with cutting sales tax on medicines and raising the property tax exemption for the elderly. He also headed the Democratic Leadership Council for two years where he gained experience in working within his party on the national level.
Please give me a list of achievements that Bill Clinton had made in his political career prior to election as President.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:Stuart Mackenzie: Well, it's a well known fact, Sonny Jim, that there's a secret society of the three whitest, hippest, least-funky white men in the world, known as The Triumvirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.
Conor Oberst (and Jeff Tweedy and Win Butler) supports Obama. This is a boy-man who truly has his his finger on the pulse of what's good for America. How could you not believe what Conor Oberst believes? Case closed.
Tony Giardino: So who's in this Triumvirate?
Stuart Mackenzie: Conor Oberst, Jeff Tweedy and Win Butler.
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Brian
You mean they went from being ranked 50th in education to being ranked 48th or 49th?
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:Sure, I'd be glad to. He was elected as both Attorney General and Governor of the State of Arkansas. As governor, he gained 12 years of executive branch experience, I believe making him the longest serving governor in the country at the time of his election to the White House (I believe he also chaired the National Governors Association as well). During his tenure, he was credited with vastly improving the state's educational system and achieving astronomic job and economic growth for the state. He also championed better conditions for seniors with cutting sales tax on medicines and raising the property tax exemption for the elderly. He also headed the Democratic Leadership Council for two years where he gained experience in working within his party on the national level.
Please give me a list of achievements that Bill Clinton had made in his political career prior to election as President.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:I don't have statistics from 1991 sitting around here at work. Sorry.
You mean they went from being ranked 50th in education to being ranked 48th or 49th?
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:The other night on the phone some girl said that Bill Clinton "brought about peace in Ireland." I'm sure Mr. Walrus would have something to say about that. I'm pretty casual but I couldn't let that pass. I think David Trimble, Tony Blair and Gerry Adams would have something to say about Bill Clinton "bringing peace to Ireland." She was blonde, though.
Please give me a list of achievements that Bill Clinton had made in his political career prior to election as President.
Brian
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761564341_2/bill_clinton.html
Here's a pretty good overview of what Bill Clinton accomplished prior to running for President.
Here's a pretty good overview of what Bill Clinton accomplished prior to running for President.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:if i posted a fox news "encyclopedia" to flaunt dick cheney's record i can only imagine the responses id get..
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761564341_2/bill_clinton.html
Here's a pretty good overview of what Bill Clinton accomplished prior to running for President.
Well I guess if we're making experience be the criteria, John McCain is clearly the best choice.
Originally posted by manimtired:This is probably the first time I've ever seen an encyclopedia labeled as being biased. You're right, they're probably making up that he was governor and had leadership roles in several national groups like the Democratic Leadership Council, the National Governor's Association, and the Southern Growth Policies Board. And they probably made up those statistics about Arkansas' educational ranking compared to the national average.
if i posted a fox news "encyclopedia" to flaunt dick cheney's record i can only imagine the responses id get..
If you're seriously going to question whether Encarta is so biased it can't be cited on educational statistics, matters of public record, and established facts then you're a fucking idiot. The only one you're succeeding in discrediting is yourself for making a statement so laughably divorced from reality.
Plus, whatever Oprah is for….I'm against.
She's not voting for Obama because he's black (RIIIIIIIIGHT)
She's voting for him because he's Bwiiiiwent, (whatever bwiiiiwent is)
She's not voting for Obama because he's black (RIIIIIIIIGHT)
She's voting for him because he's Bwiiiiwent, (whatever bwiiiiwent is)
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:I'm not saying you should vote for the most experienced candidate, just that the candidate needs to be sufficiently experienced. It's a threshold issue. Barack Obama's experience in national politics consists of winning an election he ran unopposed in and having nothing to hang his hat for his 4 years in the Senate.
Well I guess if we're making experience be the criteria, John McCain is clearly the best choice.
The Obama contingency keeps dodging the issue: explain to me why Obama is qualified to be President. What relevant experience does he have? If I – a fastidious liberal – can point that out, do you think John McCain and the RNC, aren't going to be able to in the general election?
The Democrats weren't able to point out their opponents complete lack of track record and relevant experience eight years ago.
As far as the experience goes, I think it's more about who you surround yourself with. Obama may not have the experience that Clinton or McCain have, but he's got the integrity, character, and good judgement to surround himself with with right people, instead of pulling a GWB and putting the wrong people in charge.
As far as the experience goes, I think it's more about who you surround yourself with. Obama may not have the experience that Clinton or McCain have, but he's got the integrity, character, and good judgement to surround himself with with right people, instead of pulling a GWB and putting the wrong people in charge.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:I'm not saying you should vote for the most experienced candidate, just that the candidate needs to be sufficiently experienced. It's a threshold issue. Barack Obama's experience in national politics consists of winning an election he ran unopposed in and having nothing to hang his hat for his 4 years in the Senate.
Well I guess if we're making experience be the criteria, John McCain is clearly the best choice.
The Obama contingency keeps dodging the issue: explain to me why Obama is qualified to be President. What relevant experience does he have? If I – a fastidious liberal – can point that out, do you think John McCain and the RNC, aren't going to be able to in the general election?
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:hmmmm, getting shot down in vietnam, taken pow and put in solitary confiment for 3 years then tortured for 5 more. That's not the kind of experience I'm looking for a leader who has his finger on the old 'button'!
Well I guess if we're making experience be the criteria, John McCain is clearly the best choice.
Besides, how is he going to wave at the media when he gets off Air Force 1 when he can't move his upper arms?
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:i mean white water and the impeachment got an entire paragraph…seems right.
Originally posted by manimtired:This is probably the first time I've ever seen an encyclopedia labeled as being biased. You're right, they're probably making up that he was governor and had leadership roles in several national groups like the Democratic Leadership Council, the National Governor's Association, and the Southern Growth Policies Board. And they probably made up those statistics about Arkansas' educational ranking compared to the national average.
if i posted a fox news "encyclopedia" to flaunt dick cheney's record i can only imagine the responses id get..
If you're seriously going to question whether Encarta is so biased it can't be cited on educational statistics, matters of public record, and established facts then you're a fucking idiot. The only one you're succeeding in discrediting is yourself for making a statement so laughably divorced from reality.
Convicted?
No. Never convicted.
No. Never convicted.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Convicted felon?
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I have never voted.
True story.
Originally posted by manimtired:I'm not going to allow you to take us off topic because on topic, you're exposed. Nothing that article had about Clinton's pre-Presidency experience is questionable. Pathetic weaklings try to change the subject every time their ignorance gets exposed badly.
i mean white water and the impeachment got an entire paragraph…seems right.
Maybe he could have his hot wife flash her titties instead.
With McCain or Obama you'll have the most fetching first lady in a long, long time.
Poor Mrs. Huckabee looks like an offensive tackle for the Razorbacks scrimmage squad.
With McCain or Obama you'll have the most fetching first lady in a long, long time.
Poor Mrs. Huckabee looks like an offensive tackle for the Razorbacks scrimmage squad.
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:hmmmm, getting shot down in vietnam, taken pow and put in solitary confiment for 3 years then tortured for 5 more. That's not the kind of experience I'm looking for a leader who has his finger on the old 'button'!
Well I guess if we're making experience be the criteria, John McCain is clearly the best choice.
Besides, how is he going to wave at the media when he gets off Air Force 1 when he can't move his upper arms?
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:so the pre-presidency is dead on and the latter part just tries to make a little twist on things?? mmmkay…seems like i was right in questioning the "encyclopedia" entry. lol @ you.
Originally posted by manimtired:I'm not going to allow you to take us off topic because on topic, you're exposed. Nothing that article had about Clinton's pre-Presidency experience is questionable. Pathetic weaklings try to change the subject every time their ignorance gets exposed badly.
i mean white water and the impeachment got an entire paragraph…seems right.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:First, I'd argue anyone who was a governor has executive experience already. Track record is still on the table, but still.
The Democrats weren't able to point out their opponents complete lack of track record and relevant experience eight years ago.
Second, the DNC hasn't run an efficient national campaign since 1992. The RNC, on the other hand, have proven themselves masters of spin and framing the entire election around one issue. Do not underestimate what the full resources of the RNC are going to be able to do against a neophyte like Obama.